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To: Tares
I think he is referring to the "I am saved and now I go on living my life" mentality of many "Christians".

I see it all the time. They are saved, but you'd have to ask to know it. They are still on mashed potatoes, no red meat. No doctrine or understanding of the Word beyond Sunday school lessons and cannot answer the difficult questions.

Obedience is not an option, it is a requirement and something to strive for daily.

While works will not save you, they are a demonstration of your Faith. If you love Him you will feed His sheep.

We are to be the salt and the light. If we look and act like the world we will only blend in.
54 posted on 12/07/2004 10:19:35 AM PST by CyberCowboy777 (We want hard, tough, seasoned leaders who will methodically destroy the people who would kill us.)
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To: CyberCowboy777
Obedience is not an option, it is a requirement and something to strive for daily.

Obedience is a requirement for what?

67 posted on 12/07/2004 10:53:25 AM PST by Tares
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To: CyberCowboy777; Tares
I think he is referring to the "I am saved and now I go on living my life" mentality of many "Christians".

Exactly. We had a great discussion about this last night as we are working through Dallas Willards, _Divine Conspiracy_.

Jesus didn't just come to teach us a set of facts to "believe". These aren't "ought tos". He came to actually make us competent in these things. We are actually to love our neighbor, do good to those who persecute us, turn the other cheek, walk the extra mile, speak the truth in love, etc.

Discipleship brings about the inner transformation that not only makes these things possible, but natural. Sadly most people are focusing on externals and try to do these acts and gain mental knowledge. As we fall in love with God and learn to walk in the way (spiritual disciplines) that Jesus did, we will experience the inner transformation. Jesus is still in the teaching through the HS and is enrolling all who would come into his school.

CyberCowboy...I would also have to agree with your assessment of this article. I think Campolo with his huge brush misses the mark on describing what the characteristics of the "emerging church" movement are.

- Kevin
121 posted on 12/08/2004 4:04:27 AM PST by ktupper
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