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Battle lines drawn on protection of species
Seattle Times ^ | Dec 5, 2004 | Julie Cart and Kenneth R. Weiss

Posted on 12/05/2004 6:28:50 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

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1 posted on 12/05/2004 6:28:51 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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Scientifically speaking I guess it is sad that the dinosaurs died out.

Still though we are doing pretty well without them.

2 posted on 12/05/2004 6:33:19 PM PST by carlr
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To: farmfriend


3 posted on 12/05/2004 6:34:42 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

It's about time! Let's get this done before 2006 while we have the mojo.


4 posted on 12/05/2004 6:40:09 PM PST by soycd
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Don't suppose anyone's thinking of including Dems in the category...


5 posted on 12/05/2004 6:40:34 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (Stop Hillary - PEGGY NOONAN '08)
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To: carlr
I haven't missed the passenger pigeon, either.
6 posted on 12/05/2004 6:41:13 PM PST by Max Combined (Clinton is "the notorious Oval Office onanist")
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***Scientifically speaking I guess it is sad that the dinosaurs died out.

Still though we are doing pretty well without them.***

Yeah, I used to hate it when they looked into my third-floor bedroom window.


7 posted on 12/05/2004 6:41:24 PM PST by kitkat
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What do you think killed them off...???


8 posted on 12/05/2004 6:42:14 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (Stop Hillary - PEGGY NOONAN '08)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"There's only one way to save endangered species from extinction. Eat them!"--Rush Limbaugh

9 posted on 12/05/2004 6:44:23 PM PST by RandallFlagg (FReepers, Do NOT let the voter fraud stories die!!!! (Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name))
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
If the endangered species are that important, put them in a zoo or a wildlife park.

Environmentalists had a point to make sometime in the past, but their "movement" was taken over by--or, more likely, was always a movement of--silly, smug, irresponsible, self-righteous, basically sadistic, careless petty tyrants who managed to get more authority than they deserved or could handle without becoming ruthless bullies.

Here's a good rule of thumb: If the "environmentalists" are for it, oppose it. If they're against it, support it.

10 posted on 12/05/2004 6:45:09 PM PST by Savage Beast (The only thing that can save the Democrat Party is Truth--the very thing that will destroy it.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Ohhhhhh, you rotter, you. And here I am a natural blonde. (Clairol #10, Seashell)


11 posted on 12/05/2004 6:47:13 PM PST by kitkat
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If they find a dinosaur in ANWAR it's all over.

Ruffed Grouse kabobs mmmmmmmmmmm.


12 posted on 12/05/2004 6:47:46 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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That's easy. It's Bushes fault.

L

13 posted on 12/05/2004 6:49:26 PM PST by Lurker (No, I don't really serve satan. Doesn't anyone recognize sarcasm anymore?)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
how to change the Endangered Species Act, the 31-year-old law they say has cost developers, loggers and ranchers too much money and hassle for the few animals brought back from the brink of extinction.

Julie Cart and Kenneth R. Weiss sure seem to have the Bugs and Bunny "buttons" language: mean capitalists and people who earn money. The only real humanitarians are the leeches who exist off their betters.

Well, they lie by omission. They parrot presumed benefits and never go near the costs. $20,000 per mouse? Are we compelled to stop natural processes, yes, including extinction by throwing money at it?

Just ask them, just for grins, how much they think we have thrown down the environmental bottomless pit since 1972.

$3 trillion? Five? Ten? Every cent adding to the national debt and taking away from the proper role of government: performing those necessary national tasks that we can't do individually. Let the slackers define "necessary" and they will vote themselves jobs under the guise of "environmental superiority".

Time to stop that gravy train!

14 posted on 12/05/2004 6:52:20 PM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.)
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"The act has become something other than recovering species. It's become a tool to stop growth, to stop mining, to stop logging. To stop a freeway from being built. It's become a tool that people are using to accomplish other goals."
Yes, like empowering a bunch of bullies who otherwise would be pushing mops and slinging fries.
15 posted on 12/05/2004 6:53:15 PM PST by Savage Beast (The only thing that can save the Democrat Party is Truth--the very thing that will destroy it.)
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What do you think killed them off...???

Fred Flintsone's SUV...

16 posted on 12/05/2004 6:53:18 PM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.)
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"The act has become something other than recovering species," Pombo said. "It's become a tool to stop growth, to stop mining, to stop logging. To stop a freeway from being built. It's become a tool that people are using to accomplish other goals."

James Madison to Joseph C. Cabell

13 Feb. 1829Letters 4:14--15

For a like reason, I made no reference to the "power to regulate commerce among the several States." I always foresaw that difficulties might be started in relation to that power which could not be fully explained without recurring to views of it, which, however just, might give birth to specious though unsound objections. Being in the same terms with the power over foreign commerce, the same extent, if taken literally, would belong to it. Yet it is very certain that it grew out of the abuse of the power by the importing States in taxing the non-importing, and was intended as a negative and preventive provision against injustice among the States themselves, rather than as a power to be used for the positive purposes of the General Government, in which alone, however, the remedial power could be lodged.

17 posted on 12/05/2004 6:57:43 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection; Carry_Okie; farmfriend; AuntB; SierraWasp
And the rest of the usual suspects...

Thoughts on a possible turnaround, ping?
18 posted on 12/05/2004 7:48:14 PM PST by Issaquahking ( Bush won, PROTECT OUR BORDER'S- NOW! We'll handle the PC and the ACLU losers.)
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And the rest of the usual suspects...

Thoughts on a possible turnaround, ping?
19 posted on 12/05/2004 7:48:55 PM PST by Issaquahking ( Bush won, PROTECT OUR BORDER'S- NOW! We'll handle the PC and the ACLU losers.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection; abbi_normal_2; Ace2U; adam_az; Alamo-Girl; Alas; alfons; alphadog; amom; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
20 posted on 12/05/2004 10:49:23 PM PST by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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