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Exclusive: How FBI set up AIPAC
Jerusalem Post ^
| 12/5/4
| JANINE ZACHARIA
Posted on 12/04/2004 5:53:55 PM PST by SmithL
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To: jedgarlives
As to this story, don't believe everything you read. Israel is biggest spy on US. Ever hear of Julius and Ethel ROSENBERG? Oh yes, I heard of them. They were two American Jews. They were spying on behalf of Russia.
Oh well, Israelis- Jews what's the difference.
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posted on
12/04/2004 11:30:42 PM PST
by
Nachum
To: jedgarlives
It seems to me they caught the guy pretty quickly and he was executed. I know conspiracy theorists abound, but McVey admitted it, and recent revelations show so did Terry Nicols. It is not who they caught, but who they intentionally let get away, the Middle-Eastern connection to Saddam. It is not even that they did not catch him, they let him go and actively covered his trail.
That is criminal politics. That is aiding and abetting our enemies, that is treason. Now the effort to breach the trust between our allies during a full scale war! Just who's side is the FBI on?
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posted on
12/05/2004 12:24:34 AM PST
by
American in Israel
(A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
To: FarRightTexasDude
If Israel is such a friend of the United States, how does one explain the "USS Liberty" incident and Jonathan Pollard. Go study the incident's first and get back to me, I ain't got time for brain share so you can watch a football game.
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posted on
12/05/2004 12:26:44 AM PST
by
American in Israel
(A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
To: Nachum
I have mixed feelings about this. Regarding Jonathan Pollard: As anyone in the intel business will tell you, just about every country in the world spies on most every other country. If you get caught, you go to jail. Pollard should accept that.
At the same time, if I heard about a plot to kill innocent Israelis or Americans or Brits or whatever, I might want to contact the authorities. And given that Israel's a bigger friend of the US than any other country in the world (they vote together on, like, everything), I don't see why the government is wasting its time uncovering Israeli "moles" at a time like this. The Israeli intelligence service helps us with all sorts of Middle East operations. I don't see why we wouldn't share stuff with them, anyway.
Spying is certainly a legitimate worry, though, in principle. American citizens should be loyal first and foremost to the US. If people are giving classified info to other governments, they must be punished.
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posted on
12/05/2004 12:37:16 AM PST
by
Jew4GWB
(Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in.)
To: Jew4GWB
Oh-- forgot to mention that there are plenty of people fulminating about the "neocon" Jews in government. For example: the State Department, much of which hates both George W. Bush and Israel.
Dr. Rice has her work cut out for her.
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posted on
12/05/2004 12:39:26 AM PST
by
Jew4GWB
(Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in.)
To: jedgarlives
Another proud product of our public schools?
To: perfect stranger
Better to try the Muslim American Political Action Committee, American Muslim Taskforce on Civil Rights and Elections a national coalition of the 10 largest Muslim organizations or the Council on American-Islamic Relations.
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posted on
12/05/2004 1:13:34 AM PST
by
endthematrix
("Hey, it didn't hit a bone, Colonel. Do you think I can go back?" - U.S. Marine)
To: endthematrix; perfect stranger
Better to try the Muslim American Political Action Committee, American Muslim Taskforce on Civil Rights and Elections a national coalition of the 10 largest Muslim organizations or the Council on American-Islamic Relations. Bingo. This is borderline tinfoil-hat territory, but considering the Washington bureaucracy's overall tendency to be libs (though obviously there are many exceptions) I'd be more inclined to believe there was real intel leaked to a Muslim group or Iranian spy and AIPAC was set up so when our guys in the danger zones started disappearing, the Israelis could be blamed - they got the info and then did something naughty to the Iranians (in Lebanon perhaps) who retaliated against our people.
If you're going to steal something over there, it's helpful to draw people's attention over here to get away with it.
To: jedgarlives
1. Israel spies on the US and the US spies on Israel. Espionage and foreign affairs are rather dirty.
2. The Rosenberg's spied for the USSR mostly prior to the establishment of the current state of Israel.
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posted on
12/05/2004 2:17:03 AM PST
by
rmlew
(Copperheads and Peaceniks beware! Sedition is a crime.)
To: FarRightTexasDude
If honey bees are such a friend of Pooh Bear why did they sting him when stuck his paw in their nest?
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posted on
12/05/2004 7:44:08 AM PST
by
bvw
To: Jew4GWB
I have mixed feelings about this. Regarding Jonathan Pollard Mixed feelings? Well I don't. He was an idiot who got caught and deserved some punishment. But I underline the word some. What he did not deserve was a life sentence and harsh treatment. His wife almost died in prison due to mis-treatment.
There is a great deal of speculation that he is being harshly treaed as an example to American Jews that they will be singled out and punished worse than others if they do the same. In that perspective, it is not at all surprising that the FBI created some sort of "sting" operation to "get the Jews". They would like nothing better than to paint AIPAC in the same colors as the Rosenbergs. It is speculated that to the FBI Jews equal dual loyalty. It is completely obvious.
Expect FBI sting operations coming to all sorts of religious organizations. Coming to a neighborhood near you- soon.
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posted on
12/05/2004 7:52:14 AM PST
by
Nachum
To: Nachum
Expect FBI sting operations coming to all sorts of religious organizations. Coming to a neighborhood near you- soon.
===
Hamas front CAIR is teaching the FBI 'tolerance' again.
One can only wonder what other things they are teaching...or instructing.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41721
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posted on
12/05/2004 9:39:07 AM PST
by
sarah_f
(Know Islam, Know Terror.)
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To: jedgarlives
"FBI sniper, called in much later was given order to shoot at an armed suspect out side cabin who was shooting at police helicopter. Hit his intended target, but bullet passed through him and killed suspects wife. Not exactly Gestapo tactics." Wow, three lies in one sentence.
L
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posted on
12/05/2004 11:46:44 AM PST
by
Lurker
(As a matter of fact, I do serve Satan. Don't let that bother you. My duties are largely ceremonial.)
To: FarRightTexasDude
Okay, here's another: A CNN reporter goes into Fallujah to photograph the "insurgents". He wears a brightly colored vest, but has not told allied forces where he has gone. He stays away from the "freedom fighters" strongholds, in his hotel. But he is killed, on camera, when a flurry of aimed mortar fire takes out the hotel. Why aimed at the hotel? Because he was broadcasting from it.
The spotters saw his uplink antennas and took them out.
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posted on
12/05/2004 12:23:19 PM PST
by
bvw
To: FarRightTexasDude
And CNN has video tape of the field commanders watching the broadcast on CNN.
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posted on
12/05/2004 12:25:37 PM PST
by
bvw
To: Cicero; Fedora
"Saying his access to the White House was limited, Franklin also expressed concern that the Bush administration was underestimating the extent to which Iranian agents were operating in Iraq and asked the AIPAC officials to stress this point in their meetings with US officials. The agents' hope, plainly, was that the AIPAC pair would be so troubled by the apparent life-and-death content of the information from Franklin as to risk a breach of US espionage statutes and transfer what they believed to be classified material to a foreign power, Israel.
Uh...it's not like these realities about Iranian intervention hasn't been said publicly by US military and Iraqi officials.
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posted on
12/05/2004 1:38:32 PM PST
by
Shermy
To: FarRightTexasDude
Then you also know that when the Navy was asked if there was an American ship in the area we said no. In a war zone, while Israel's shores were under attack, we sent in an spy ship and when it was spotted we denied it was ours.
Facts. You know them, but you forget the inconvenient ones that are in the way of your agenda.
Pal.
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posted on
12/05/2004 2:27:39 PM PST
by
American in Israel
(A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
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posted on
12/05/2004 3:04:13 PM PST
by
SJackson
( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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