Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Looong article.

Most of the subjects appear to be mentally ill.

1 posted on 12/03/2004 5:34:26 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-29 next last
To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

It appears to be a prerequisite for joining TROP.


2 posted on 12/03/2004 5:35:55 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Wait a few years or months when the novelty wears off and he tries to recant. Then, he'd better move and change his name.


3 posted on 12/03/2004 5:36:01 PM PST by JeeperFreeper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

And then there was Jim Jones, and then there was David Koresh, and then there have been other assorted loons that are held up as trophies by the cults they adopted and many died from following them.


4 posted on 12/03/2004 5:38:52 PM PST by xJones
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

I have a few books on Islam bought way before 9/11 just out of curiosity. None of them make me want to become a Muslim. As for the Koran, as a result of reading these books I bought a copy. Perhaps I'm one of those stupid Republicans, but I found it unreadable. I am amazed that anyone could be converted by reading it that my only thought is that they refuse to admit they can't understand it and think it makes them look smart to have other people think they do.


6 posted on 12/03/2004 5:40:36 PM PST by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

they sound like a bunch of jingoists.

this isnt a religion, but a arabization of other cultures..

why does someone have to dress-up to know god?

its more of a fashion statement


7 posted on 12/03/2004 5:42:00 PM PST by atari
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

They're not converting, they're recruiting. It's a damed cult.


8 posted on 12/03/2004 5:43:25 PM PST by JoeSixPack1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
"Islam is a way of life. The Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, taught us everything up to how to go to the bathroom. Even when you go to the bathroom, how to go in, how to go out, how to sit, how to wash, how to take a shower." Some religion they have going.......what is the punishment if you go to the bathroom wrong?
9 posted on 12/03/2004 5:43:59 PM PST by AirForceMom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
Islam is anti-free will, anti-free thought and just un-American.

All you need to learn about the reality of Islam and the toons that follw it can be found here.

12 posted on 12/03/2004 5:46:00 PM PST by isthisnickcool (John Kerry in 2008!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Yeah, he's doing really great. Driving a cab in New York city, praying in Mosques. I bet he gets a lot of dates--not!


13 posted on 12/03/2004 5:47:58 PM PST by rbg81
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
the world's most newsworthy religion.

Um, that's an "interesting" way of putting it.

15 posted on 12/03/2004 5:51:15 PM PST by lizma
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Dressed as he is in an Islamic-style tunic and a white kufi, or cap, with an untrimmed ginger beard

I find it curious that whenever a white person adopts Islam beit John Walker Lind, Cat Stevens, or whoever they feel it necessary to adopt the whole tragitional islamic garb while more and more Arab Muslims are wearing Levis, Nikes and Tommy Hilfiger.

18 posted on 12/03/2004 5:53:06 PM PST by Drew68
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

To understand these people and al Qaeda too, read Eric Hoffer's book The True Believer. He provides an analysis using historical examples as to why people join mass movements.


21 posted on 12/03/2004 5:56:22 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Liberalism is proof that intelligent people can ignore as much as the ignorant.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

The Amway of the new millenium.


23 posted on 12/03/2004 5:57:39 PM PST by JustAnotherOkie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
The last person I knew with roots in Torrence California converted to the Amish church. There must be something weird about Torrence. I think I prefer the Torrence Amishman and his choice.
25 posted on 12/03/2004 6:02:44 PM PST by bilhosty
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

..."... you are required to pray five times a day..."...

required to pray PUBLICLY---within sight of other Muslims. Thus, you are required to acknowledge, in public, 5 times every day, that you are subject to the rule of an Islamic cleric, who will forever retain power over your life and over the life of your family.

Islam is willing submission into eternal SLAVERY. Slavery--unless you are lucky to be one of Allah's "chosen ones". If so, then YOU can enslave and torture others.

It's all basic evil human nature. That's why you need to pray in public 1,825 every year.


31 posted on 12/03/2004 6:10:56 PM PST by jolie560
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
"Like a growing number of white Americans and Europeans, he has ...... become the mortal enemy of Christianity.

He has but one purpose in his life now, and that is to destroy Judaism and Christianity
40 posted on 12/03/2004 6:21:47 PM PST by steplock (http://www.outoftimeradio.org)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Just damn. If only the Scientologists or Amway had gotten to him first. He was obviously ripe for the picking.


45 posted on 12/03/2004 6:26:42 PM PST by wizardoz
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

the muslim world gives us a glimpse into the western world's middle ages. because of the desert genesis of islam, and the shortage of water, they have no tradition of brewing good beer. without beer, all those men cannot relax or vent their life rage on something apolitical in a drunken stupor. this is the big problem.


48 posted on 12/03/2004 6:33:45 PM PST by next view
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
""In the second chapter it says, ‘In this book you’ll find no doubt,’" he told me. "Meaning no contradictions."

Well, that's not true, obviously.

What's funny is that converts to Islam always seem to think that they have to dress, speak and act like third world peasants. When Christians make converts in non-Christian countries the people wear what they want, speak their own language and read the bible in their own language.

This "play-acting" acting aspect is very troubling. I have more than enough Latin to follow a Tridentine Mass or recite the creeds and common prayers in Latin but I don't have enough to read the Vulgate intelligently - nor has anyone ever suggested that I get up to speed.

This is a cultural conversion, in my mind.

50 posted on 12/03/2004 6:37:21 PM PST by Gingersnap
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 4.1O dana super trac pak; bilhosty; nosofar; AirForceMom; Luddite Patent Counsel; jolie560; BobL; ..
A long read but very informative. Yes, as practiced by these militant converts it does indeed have all the classic trappings of a cult. I can see this aimless, aimiable Vincent guy just as easily taking up with the Scientologists, Moonies, Harry Krishnas or, in another era, the brownshirts. Exulting in the feeling of belonging, order and self-righteousness, wearing the uniform, hating who you're told to hate our boy has definately stumbled into a cult. Now he may go no farther than this, and he might get sick of playing the austere fanatic and either drop out or take a more worldly stance, but the article showed that he needs very little pushing to take it to the next level.

When I pressed him further on how he felt about listening to a Syrian imam implicitly call for the defeat of American troops in the middle of Manhattan, Randall answered, slightly frostily, that "In America we have this thing called the First Amendment."

And no doubt the sheik is well aware of it. Listening to him I had the sense that certain Muslims have studied liberal Western society the way a military general assesses an enemy position — probing for strengths and weaknesses, deciding where and how and at what cost penetration can be achieved.

I saw some of that "Al Qaeda 2.0" seminar on CSPAN2 last night. As I had suspected, much of it sounded more like the '04 OsamaCon but the lectures pertaining to the recruitment and psychology of terrorists and their infiltration in Old Europe reminds me why Europe was the hotbed for the 9-11 killers. At least our Vincent still has to work for his living, over there he'd be just as free AND he could go on the dole. Back in Araby most radical, subversive imams would be dragged off and shot if they railed against the country they happened to be in.

"Politicization is almost always part of the package," says the Islamic Supreme Council of America’s Mateen Siddiqui, referring to hardcore Islamic converts. But if al-Yaqoubi feels comfortable saying in front of 1,300 people in the heart of mainstream American Islam that American troops will be defeated wherever they go, then what might be said in Arabic in small, obscure mosques in Brooklyn, Queens and elsewhere with a translation murmured into a pale, friendly, naive American ear?

"I do wish the American troops would be defeated," he told me, adding, "I’m a Muslim first, and I just live in this country."

Rule #1 in fighting Islamist terror should be--Don't make it easy for them--I strongly suggest bookmarking this article to read it in detail

Interesting that Christianity and Judaism not only allow the Testaments to be critically studied, but for the most part encourage it. This actually strengthens the religions because conflicting stanzas can be discussed and debated. Koranic studies are more about memorization, it is never approached critically.

I have been reading and hearing about that. Islam is one religion in desperate need of a reformation. The ever-present implicit threat of violence runs like a thread through it's history and practice.

58 posted on 12/03/2004 6:57:44 PM PST by sinanju
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-29 next last

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson