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SCHIAVO APPEAL (JUST KILL HER AND GET IT OVER WITH. IT'S ONLY MURDER!)
Miami Herald ^ | 12/03/2004 | Miami Herald Staffers

Posted on 12/03/2004 10:58:32 AM PST by JesseHousman

In September, the Florida Supreme Court sent an unequivocal message by unanimous vote to Gov. Jeb Bush and the Legislature that their hastily passed law to extend the life of Terri Schiavo was unconstitutional. In a side note, the court left the door ajar for an appeal. The governor apparently took little heed of the court's first message and decided on an appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court.

That's too bad. The appeal will prolong a case that has been debated in the public forum and argued in state and federal courts for more than six years.

The governor now says that he is entitled to a new trial to determine if Ms. Schiavo actually would have approved of removing the feeding tube that now sustains her life in a vegetative state. ''The fundamental right of anyone, whether it's the governor or an ordinary person, to have their day in court is a big deal,'' Gov. Bush said.

Our hope is that the Supreme Court decides quickly in a way that brings the case to an end. The governor is spending significant state resources on a long-shot legal effort to prove a point rooted, at least in part, in his deeply held personal and religious convictions. Doing so, he injects himself personally in a matter usually left for families to decide. With a denial, the U.S. Supreme Court can say, Enough is enough.

According to The New York Times, ''Any executive who was fired or resigned for good cause would receive the payment.'' Total cost could easily run into hundreds of millions of dollars.

This is the boardroom equivalent of shoving the passengers aside as the crew and captain scramble to get into the lifeboats. As a reward for incompetence, it may represent a new low in corporate arrogance.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: euthanasia; floridasoopremes; governmentkilling; terrischiavo
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Our hope is that the Supreme Court decides quickly in a way that brings the case to an end.

And in the left's opinion: furthering euthanasia to include killing an adult human being will be great!

Thank God for Governor Bush!

Oh, copy boy. This story should be filed under "Women's Health!"

No better than the stinking muslims!

1 posted on 12/03/2004 10:58:32 AM PST by JesseHousman
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To: JesseHousman
What if Terri Schiavo were a dog?
2 posted on 12/03/2004 11:01:43 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: JesseHousman
Doing so, he injects himself personally in a matter usually left for families to decide.

I think they mean remarried ex-husbands should decide. I wouldn't really call that "family" at this point. Her family who loves her wants her to live.

3 posted on 12/03/2004 11:02:57 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: JesseHousman
Doing so, he injects himself personally in a matter usually left for families to decide

The question has been which family gets to decide? The remarried husband who, I hear, denied her needed medical help. Or the parents that have offered to do anything to help.

4 posted on 12/03/2004 11:04:23 AM PST by KJacob (I will not worry about 2008 until late 2007.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Exactly.

Different subject. How many ghosts do you personally represent?

I know there's a few that return from the dead.

5 posted on 12/03/2004 11:04:50 AM PST by JesseHousman
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To: JesseHousman
I don't know how these people sleep at night, having no regard for the weakest and most vulnerable members of our society. God forgive me but, I hope when they're old and sick, someone wants to put them to death, because it is then when they will realize the absurdity of their position. Thank God for Jeb Bush and his persistence.
6 posted on 12/03/2004 11:06:01 AM PST by Raquel (Abortion ruins lives.)
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To: OXENinFLA
Thanks for posting that link. If I may borrow a phrase or two:

If Terri were a dog (or sea turtle, or dolphin, or whale), then the Humane Society, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals and the Animal Planet Channel would swoop in, work their magic and successfully save her from a cruel and unusual death by starvation and dehydration.

7 posted on 12/03/2004 11:08:23 AM PST by JesseHousman
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To: Raquel

They sleep like people without souls or fear of an eternity in hell!


8 posted on 12/03/2004 11:09:28 AM PST by JesseHousman
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To: JesseHousman

LOL! I would represent three ghosts, but I will not name names.


9 posted on 12/03/2004 11:11:14 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

I know what you mean.


10 posted on 12/03/2004 11:14:11 AM PST by JesseHousman
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To: JesseHousman

I can't speak for the facts in this case and this kind of case speaks to the importance of leaving living wills and DNR orders etc.......

we don't know whether or not it is true that Terry Schiavo told her husband that if she were ever in a vegetative state she would prefer not to live that way

we don't know if this is an issue of a greedy husband or what though it appears there is no money left for anyone to get their hands on, all being eaten up by this woman's care

common sense would tell me however that is is likely she did say this, I have said it many times myself, which reminds me I better get a living will etc, this kind of thing can happen anytime anywhere, even to the young, I would rather be allowed to die in dignity to end my suffering and that of my family's quite frankly than to live in a vegetative state,

if it were up to God, if we are going to quote religious concerns, this woman would have been dead long ago, and funny if you believe in God, you'd think you would rather your loved one be allowed to make the journey to the afterlife sooner than later to stop their suffering

seems to me we treat animals more humanely, I don't see it as murder at all, sustaining a life that wouldn't be sustainable without life support, medical intervention with NO HOPE OF RECOVERY seems like assault or abuse to me and the reality is doctors and families make these kinds of decisions every day without the courts getting involved

frankly I think the parents of this woman need to let go, but they can't or won't........but nothing you can do I guess if the patient's wishes weren't clearly specified before they were incapable of doing so.......


11 posted on 12/03/2004 11:18:29 AM PST by littlelilac
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To: littlelilac

if my wish was not to live in that state and my family knew that and disregarded my wish, I don't call that love, I call that selfish


12 posted on 12/03/2004 11:20:15 AM PST by littlelilac
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To: JesseHousman
Thanks for posting, JH.

Deuteronomy 30:19..."I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live...."

13 posted on 12/03/2004 11:20:55 AM PST by onedoug
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To: onedoug

Amen.


14 posted on 12/03/2004 11:25:54 AM PST by JesseHousman
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To: littlelilac

Yes. Read #7.


15 posted on 12/03/2004 11:28:02 AM PST by JesseHousman
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To: littlelilac
seems like assault or abuse to me and the reality is doctors and families make these kinds of decisions every day without the courts getting involved frankly I think the parents of this woman need to let go, but they can't or won't........

The parents are the family. The husband divorced her.

16 posted on 12/03/2004 11:28:20 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: littlelilac
"...sustaining a life that wouldn't be sustainable without life support, medical intervention with NO HOPE OF RECOVERY seems like assault or abuse to me..." If you look at this case, the issue is whether or not to remove a feeding tube, because Terri cannot eat on her own. If you know this already, then it is your contention that it's o.k. to stop feeding her, simply because you believe there is no hope that she will one day eat on her own. What about Terri's right to live? Taking her feeding tube out will starve her to death. Just because I believe in life after death doesn't mean I want the suffering to die in order to get a quick ticket to Heaven. I believe that every life, no matter how sick or how small, has the right to life. No one should have the power, not a family member, not a Court, not a Priest, to take any life on their own accord. Funny I took an entirely different approach urging my family members to allow me to live the course of my life to natural death, no matter what condition I am in. By the way, you should check out Terri's site, she doesn't look like she's in a complete vegetative state to me. In fact, in all these years, if her husband used half of the money he's spent on lawyers, on her rehabilitative care, she would be in a lot better shape. I would much rather help her to live, than issue a death sentence.
17 posted on 12/03/2004 11:35:53 AM PST by Raquel (Abortion ruins lives.)
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To: littlelilac

That's fine. But, other than the husband, who's to say what Terri Schiavo said. The husband has been under suspicion of everything from tampering with Terri's intubation to demanding no feeding tube, (even though he didn't have the legal right)to possible wife-beating, to living with a woman and fathering two children by her, despite the fact that his wife is still alive.

On which side would you err? A shmuck like him, or the compassion shown by her parents?

Oh, and by the way, let's not forget that the life insurance would have paid off handsomely for him, if he had been able to pull the plug when he wanted to.

Sometimes the best laid plans of mice and men often do go astray.


18 posted on 12/03/2004 11:39:21 AM PST by ColoCdn (Neco eos omnes, Deus suos agnoset)
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To: JesseHousman

You would think that if the Miami Herald had one ounce of compassion they would have left this article for a different day. Today is Terri's 41st Birthday! Will the indignities ever cease? Do they have to do this at every turn?


19 posted on 12/03/2004 11:40:16 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: floriduh voter; phenn; cyn; FreepinforTerri; kimmie7; Pegita; windchime; tutstar; Deo volente; ...

Terri ping! How nice of the Miami Herald! </ sarcasm>

If anyone would like to be on/off my Terri ping list, please let me know here or by Freepmail.


20 posted on 12/03/2004 11:41:50 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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