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To: TOUGH STOUGH
Your okay with the firing? She wasn't deliberately trying to cause trouble, she was trying to disseminate ACCURATE and TRUTHFUL information. But you've warped and twisted her motives and actions as well as any leftist would. YOU are guilty of doing the same kind of thing they do to conservatives, you hypocrite.

BS! We just had a friggin election and national debate upon stem cell issues. She had to know it was a controversial issue. So, we have two choices. We can believe she knew she would cause trouble or we can believe that she's a moron who somehow missed that issue being discussed over the last year.

So we should fire conservatives because that would be effective but we shouldn't fire liberals because that would be ineffective? Yeah, sure, that makes a lot of sense.

It makes a lot of sense if you can comprehend the written word. I said that people who DELIBERATELY use these issues to persuade children should be fired. Many liberals do this and I acknowledged that. Many liberals also do it unconsciously. Punishing someone for something they don't even realize they are doing is ineffective as a deterrent. However, I even stated that it wouldn't bother me if they were fired anyway.

FIRE a few Liberals and they will begin to get it. The teachers who take their place will tread more lightly.

No, they won't. I've already explained why. We've protested aganist liberal media for years. Do they get it yet?

As I said on a previous post to you, I grow weary of conservatives (and that means YOU) who are harder on their own than on the enemy.

Yup! Absolutely! I have standards. I expect liberals to be hypocritical idiots. I expect conservatives to be better than that. Sorry if you can't measure up.

491 posted on 12/05/2004 1:37:01 AM PST by Dianna
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To: Dianna

"She had to know it was a controversial issue."

Unlike you, Mrs. Mayor does not let the leftist establishment set the rules for debate and allow them to define what or what is not controversial.

Stem cell research is controversial only in the flawed and disturbed minds of those who who would exploit the most vulnerable for their sick ends.

Thanks for your bravery Mrs. Mayor


497 posted on 12/05/2004 7:11:14 AM PST by eleni121 (NO more reaching out!)
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To: Dianna
"So, we have two choices. We can believe she knew she would cause trouble or we can believe that she's a moron who somehow missed that issue being discussed over the last year."

Sometimes there are situations where possible motivations are limited to two choices, this isn't one of them. Mrs. Mayor was enthusiastic about the information she learned while listening to Mel Gibson (I also heard that interview) and wanted to disseminate the information. I think it is clear from her posts. Not only are you accusing her of trying to cause trouble, but you are also calling her AND HER HUSBAND a liar, tactics so typical of the left when they are dealing with conservatives. YOU are THE hypocrite.

"It makes a lot of sense if you can comprehend the written word. I said that people who DELIBERATELY use these issues to persuade children should be fired. Many liberals do this and I acknowledged that. Many liberals also do it unconsciously. Punishing someone for something they don't even realize they are doing is ineffective as a deterrent."

Sorry, your thinking about the above issue is disordered and your comments about that make NO rational sense. If someone is doing something UNCONSCIOUSLY, and they are then penalized for that behavior, they will become conscious of it REAL fast. As a society we GENERALLY don't choose to punish people or not based on whether or not they are conscious of their actions. And how are we to accurately determine if liberals are doing it consciously or unconsciously? Either everyone gets reprimanded or penalized for indoctrinating our children or no one does.

The old media, who had ALL the power, was rarely if ever held accountable for their transgressions, one reason they never got it. Fire liberals for indoctrinating our children and hit them in the pocketbook where it hurts and they will begin to get it.

"Yup! Absolutely! I have standards. I expect liberals to be hypocritical idiots. I expect conservatives to be better than that. Sorry if you can't measure up"

No, actually you don't expect liberals to live up to any standards but you expect conservatives to live up to the highest of standards, another liberal tactic.

What Mrs. Mayor did does not even closely approximate the effects of liberal teachers in the classroom, who day in and day out, year after year, are instructing children in a captive environment, and blackmail them with grades. The children on that bus were not obligated to listen to Mrs. Mayor and she had no authority to require that they listen, neither could she hold grades over their heads. They could have talked to one another, read, played games and probably many of them were doing just that. No indoctrination there. But you would have HER FIRED and not the liberal who does far worse, day after day, year after year. No, I don't go for THAT kind of double standard well established by liberals for conservatives long ago and neither should you, hypocrite.

And BTW, liberals should be held to the same high standards that conservatives are held to whether you expect them to fail or not. Just as minorities shouldn't get a pass because they are part of a minority group, liberals shouldn't get a pass because they are liberals. I have never given them such a pass. YOU apparently do.

498 posted on 12/05/2004 9:15:33 AM PST by TOUGH STOUGH
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To: Dianna
We just had a friggin election

We did? I thought it was a national election to determine our president for the next four years.

512 posted on 12/05/2004 2:07:41 PM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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