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School Bus Driver Fired for Stem Cell Talk
Associated Press ^ | 12/2/04

Posted on 12/02/2004 3:56:16 PM PST by reportgirl73

GRAND ISLAND, N.Y. (AP) - An elementary school bus driver was fired after sharing a statistic she had read about embryonic stem cell research with students, then encouraging them to tell their parents about it.

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To: jsbankston

It's not indoctrination when it's true. The bus driver was attempting to set some of the more poorly educated children free from the bondage of wrong thinking. She was fired for her troubles, when she should have been commended and awarded a medal.


241 posted on 12/03/2004 11:48:15 AM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: Dianna
Not much for freedom, are you?

I think I've shown remarkable restraint and tolerance whilst watching you exercise your freedom. It has been extraordinarily painful, but I anticipate a full recovery.

242 posted on 12/03/2004 11:52:07 AM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

The whole trouble with medals is that you cannot eat them for dinner. However, that pay check she was receiving driving the bus could put some food on the table.


243 posted on 12/03/2004 11:54:37 AM PST by jsbankston
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To: jsbankston
I predict two possible outcomes. The first is that public pressure forces the local authorities to reinstate the driver. The second is that she files suit and settles out of court, collecting the equivalent of twenty years of school bus driver pay.

I'd prefer to see the second outcome. Then a local group of like minded evangelicals awards the heroic driver with a grand medal. Don't you see? It's perfect. She'll be able to buy food using monies from the settlement, and proudly display the medal for all to see.

244 posted on 12/03/2004 12:04:49 PM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: Dianna

There are no statisitics for how often people get fired for such things. But when they do it's always a conservative. Sorry. There is no way she could possibly have known with any certainty. My orginal comment still stands.


245 posted on 12/03/2004 12:30:56 PM PST by TOUGH STOUGH
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To: DGray
OK, so a busload of elementary-aged children approached MrsMayor completely out of the blue and said...[ridicolous, mocking, highly detailed and thus presumptive scenario]

Let me see if I follow the implied logic. MrsMayor was either being preachy, or the only possible alternative is ridiculous, mocking, and highly detailed scenario you suggest.

May I humbly suggest there may be other possibilities. For instance perhaps she is friendly and sometimes talks to some of the kids, and once in a while a subject like this comes up.

A responsible bus driver would say that abortion was something the child should discuss with her family, and go back to driving the bus.

This response sounds fairly reasonable, although there may be some in Planned Parenthood who would disagree, so perhaps we will reach the point where the responsible bus driver would say such things must only be discussed with the government sanctioned sex education counselor.

I don't waste time on things that have absolutely nothing to do with my job description

My own job description says nothing about calling 911 if somebody at my work is having a heart attack. So now I know I should just let them die, thank you for the broad moral clarification. Such would be very welcome in a faceless dehumanized sterile bureaucracy.

246 posted on 12/03/2004 12:54:48 PM PST by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: Dianna
No. I'm on the side of balance and fairness.

How noble of you.

Pray tell what damage has been done to those children?

Your hysterical and shrill reaction to this, far out weighs the degree of the offense.

247 posted on 12/03/2004 1:04:59 PM PST by TOUGH STOUGH
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To: LABandit
I had a feeling that was you!

You are the only LABandit I know.
Why didn't you tell me you signed up..
LABandit
Since Apr 18, 2003

The Mayor
Since Oct 16, 2000
I have seniority
248 posted on 12/03/2004 1:18:10 PM PST by The Mayor (If Jesus lives within us, sin need not overwhelm us.)
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To: Dianna
You went out of your way to discuss an divisive subject

Whether or not a certain branch of medical research holds promise or not should not be a divisive issue. To the extent that some folks insist that it should be, they have their own divisive agenda, which Ms Mayor appears, quite rightly, to have ignored.

249 posted on 12/03/2004 1:18:16 PM PST by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: DGray
She was only sharing a scientific fact with some kids..there is nothing inappropriate about that..it's not like she was talking about aborted babies or sexually transmitted diseases...it's a fact about science and research...it's good for them to get a little factoid on the bus! Better than most things that are shoved down kids throats these days.
250 posted on 12/03/2004 1:20:43 PM PST by ladiesview61
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To: reportgirl73

If this is the first offense, I'd say firing is rather harsh. A simple "Drive the bus and don't share your views" would have been sufficient. (Of course, I think school boards should also be telling teachers, "Teach the math, don't share your views.")


251 posted on 12/03/2004 1:24:57 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: LABandit

It's been picked up by CNN..

http://www.cnn.com/2004/EDUCATION/12/02/busdriver.stemcell.ap/index.html


252 posted on 12/03/2004 1:27:24 PM PST by The Mayor (If Jesus lives within us, sin need not overwhelm us.)
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To: TOUGH STOUGH
Pray tell what damage has been done to those children?

What damage? Well I'll tell you...they might think that fetal stem cell research is not a promising as its supposed to be. They might even think...oh my...they might actualy think!

253 posted on 12/03/2004 1:29:16 PM PST by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: AndyTheBear; Diana
Whether or not a certain branch of medical research holds promise or not

Whether or not AndyTheBear is redundant or not...

254 posted on 12/03/2004 1:31:40 PM PST by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: MEGoody
"Drive the bus and don't share your views"

But it wasn't a view. It was a fact that those who are promoting a view want to suppress. It would have to be drive the bus and don't say anything that might offend anybody...so don't talk.

255 posted on 12/03/2004 1:33:24 PM PST by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: AndyTheBear
"But it wasn't a view."

It also isn't part of a school bus driver's job to teach about stem cell research. Nevertheless, firing was harsh if this is the first time it's ever happened. A simple, "Don't do that any more" would have been enough.

256 posted on 12/03/2004 1:42:10 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

It is none of your's or anyone else's biz now is it? You will acknowledge that won't you? I do have a constitutional right to raise my kid the way I see fit now don't I? Do you even know what the constitution is?

You are what is known as a "busybody" and a "do gooder". All other concerns take second place to your spewing of the "truth."


257 posted on 12/03/2004 2:03:18 PM PST by OwnershipSociety
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To: Manic_Episode

Says who" YOU?

On a internet bulletin board where you can be an anonymous hero?

LOL!

Get lost.


258 posted on 12/03/2004 2:04:19 PM PST by OwnershipSociety
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To: MEGoody
It also isn't part of a school bus driver's job to teach about stem cell research

It is everyone's job to be human. And it is dehumanizing for educators who would indoctrinate children to terrorize bus drivers who would educate them.

259 posted on 12/03/2004 2:09:21 PM PST by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: OwnershipSociety
I'm a school bus driver and I would expect the same treatment if I brought something like that up to my student passengers

Can't say that I blame you, public schools have become horribly politically correct. Your probably safer not even talking to the kids. And be sure to only use the water fountain labeled "bus drivers".

260 posted on 12/03/2004 2:15:38 PM PST by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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