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Gartner: Half of US IT operations jobs to vanish
MacWorld.com ^ | 12-2-04 | Patrick Thibodeau

Posted on 12/02/2004 10:47:34 AM PST by soccer_linux_mozilla

In an eyebrow-raising forecast, Gartner Inc. researchers said they believe that as many as 50 percent of the IT operational jobs in the U.S. could disappear over the next two decades because of improvements in data center technologies.

Donna Scott, a Gartner analyst, said IT workers face a situation similar to that in the manufacturing field, which has lost jobs over the past several decades as automation has improved. Similarly, standardization of IT infrastructure, applications and processes will lead to productivity improvements and a major shift in skill needs, she said.

"There will be more room to automate, and that means there will be reduced labor cost," said Scott. "This is a long-term change."

Gartner calls this change "real-time infrastructure," which involves service-oriented architectures, the elimination of communications barriers and dynamic alignment of IT with business priorities. Technologies enabling the shift have less need for human intervention because they are more intelligent and can automatically provision services and self-heal.

IT operations, which encompass areas such as systems administration, incident response and change management, today account for about 55 percent of an IT department's labor cost, said Scott, who spoke at the Stamford, Conn.-based research firm's annual data center conference here in Las Vegas. But as companies improve automation, IT operations become "more like a factory," said Scott. Demand will grow for employees who have IT architecture skills as well as those with business and customer-liaison knowledge. Project management, for instance, will rise in terms of the percentage of IT labor costs, she said.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: employment; globalism; ibm; it; jobs; outsourcing
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To: soccer_linux_mozilla
...researchers said they believe that as many as 50 percent of the IT operational jobs in the U.S. could disappear over the next two decades...

...and reappear in India!

21 posted on 12/02/2004 11:00:10 AM PST by Walkin Man
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To: soccer_linux_mozilla
Let me see started in IT got downsized moved to software development and job got outsourced to India. Hummm they will always have a need for garbage collection.
22 posted on 12/02/2004 11:00:18 AM PST by reagandemo (The battle is near are you ready for the sacrifice?)
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To: Dilbert56

"As long as they don't come after us keypunchers....." Don't look behind you something is catching up.


23 posted on 12/02/2004 11:01:45 AM PST by reagandemo (The battle is near are you ready for the sacrifice?)
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To: reagandemo
As long as they don't come after us keypunchers.....

Don't look behind you something is catching up.

Actually, the last time I touched a keypunch was 1983. My elder daughter's birth announcements were sent on punch cards. They were anachronistic even back then.

24 posted on 12/02/2004 11:05:14 AM PST by Dilbert56
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To: television is just wrong
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25 posted on 12/02/2004 11:05:14 AM PST by jdm (Stockhausen, Kagel, Xenakis -- world capitals or avant-garde composers?)
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To: soccer_linux_mozilla
Hopefully, this is true. The large part of IT operations are akin to having telephone operators plugging cords into a switchboard. The work can be automated and done better, faster and more securely. For instance, provisioning a network of thousands of computer should _not_ take thousands of "support" personnel.

For myself, I'd much rather be working on something interesting than doing the rote, no-nothing work that comprises much of IT today.

26 posted on 12/02/2004 11:06:15 AM PST by glorgau
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To: soccer_linux_mozilla

Get out while the getting is good. I've been in the field for 20 years and am getting out to start my own business...non IT.


27 posted on 12/02/2004 11:06:58 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: reagandemo

>>a need for garbage collection.

Nah, Java, Perl, Ruby and Python do that for you automatically nowadays. Memory leaks are a thing of the past (*snicker*)!



Oh wait, maybe you meant regular garbage (as in household refuse).


28 posted on 12/02/2004 11:07:01 AM PST by Betis70 (I'm only Left Wing when I play hockey)
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To: soccer_linux_mozilla

It's Bush's Fault!!

Wink, wink...

29 posted on 12/02/2004 11:08:13 AM PST by liberty_lvr (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything.)
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To: soccer_linux_mozilla
Technologies enabling the shift have less need for human intervention because they are more intelligent and can automatically provision services and self-heal.

More inteligent than human's ? Then way does it need us at all ?

30 posted on 12/02/2004 11:08:15 AM PST by justrepublican (Screaming like a keynote speaker at a Wellstone Memorial.)
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To: soccer_linux_mozilla

As long as their are idiot users out there IT jobs aren't going away!! I'm not saying all users are idiots, but most of them are hehe.


31 posted on 12/02/2004 11:09:16 AM PST by KoRn
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To: soccer_linux_mozilla

Anybody interested in buying one of these here handsome buggy whips?


32 posted on 12/02/2004 11:09:41 AM PST by brewcrew
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To: reagandemo

The reduction in IT is bsed on current trends in improved efficiency without addressing the fact that the more you can do, the more customers want you to do.

Forth generation languages make product so fast it is incredible when compared to 10 years ago. But customers want far more than they did with character based terminals and keypunch entry.

It balances out.

The only thing that bothers me is the export of existing jobs to places like India, China, etc. We gave China our industrial jobs because we were told that they would be replaced by information jobs. OK, so what is supposed to replace information level jobs?


33 posted on 12/02/2004 11:16:17 AM PST by JFK_Lib
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To: justrepublican
Then way does it need us at all ?

Somebody has to take it out of the shipping box and plug it into the wall. (But they are probably working on a way to automate that as well.)

34 posted on 12/02/2004 11:16:19 AM PST by been_lurking
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To: soccer_linux_mozilla

While most outsourced occupations have lasted at least one generation, IT is not one of them. Although this is frustrating for recent grads and even seasoned veterans (10+years), it is not unexpected.


35 posted on 12/02/2004 11:18:36 AM PST by rit
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To: JFK_Lib
The reduction in IT is bsed on current trends in improved efficiency without addressing the fact that the more you can do, the more customers want you to do.

BINGO!!

36 posted on 12/02/2004 11:18:37 AM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: soccer_linux_mozilla

hehehe...self-healing.


37 posted on 12/02/2004 11:21:10 AM PST by SoDak (home of Senator John Thune)
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To: JFK_Lib
I really don't have a problem with a trade being made obsolete. What I do have a problem with is a company looking at profits on a short term basis i.e. making their bottom look good for each individual quarter they are in. Company A moves enough jobs over to India then the size of the tax base if they are selling to the public sector decreases or if they are B to C the consumer buying power will decrease. Either way they are really not looking at the long term effects and their sales will suffer.
38 posted on 12/02/2004 11:23:35 AM PST by reagandemo (The battle is near are you ready for the sacrifice?)
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To: NonValueAdded
Even if you leave, the toolbox is yours to keep


39 posted on 12/02/2004 11:25:50 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: soccer_linux_mozilla

Of course, this is the same Gartner that declared the mainframe computer "dead" in 1991.


40 posted on 12/02/2004 11:26:45 AM PST by Senator_Blutarski (No good deed goes unpunished.)
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