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Ukraine undecided; George Soros "spending millions on the campaign against Mr. Yanukovych"
Washington Times ^ | November 8, 2004 | James Morrison

Posted on 12/02/2004 6:55:29 AM PST by MeekOneGOP

Embassy Row

By James Morrison
Published November 9, 2004

Ukraine undecided
    A chief adviser to the Ukrainian prime minister sees uncanny parallels between his boss's campaign for president and last week's U.S. presidential election.
    The Nov. 21 runoff between Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych and Viktor Yushchenko, a former prime minister, is too close to call. Each candidate received about 39 percent in the first round of voting on Oct. 31. Ukrainians appear divided between Mr. Yanukovych's rural supporters and Mr. Yushchenko's urban ones.
    Also, as in the American election, billionaire George Soros, who poured millions of dollars into efforts to defeat President Bush, is also spending millions on the campaign against Mr. Yanukovych, said Eduard Prutnik, the prime minister's adviser, on a visit to The Washington Times yesterday.
    "It's very much alike. We hope the outcome will also be the same," he said, predicting a victory for Mr. Yanukovych by about five percentage points.
    Iraq is also an issue, with Mr. Yanukovych pledging to keep Ukraine's 1,600 troops within the U.S.-led coalition and Mr. Yushchenko promising to withdraw them within weeks if he is elected.
    One of Mr. Prutnik's goals on his visit to Washington this week is to try to explain why Mr. Yanukovych would be a better U.S. ally than his opponent, who is supported privately by some State Department officials and publicly by many Ukrainians in the United States.
    "Unfortunately, people in this town want to speak in terms of black and white, making one 100 percent positive and the other 100 percent negative," Mr. Prutnik said.
    Critics suspect Mr. Yanukovych of harboring authoritarian tendencies like the current president, Leonid Kuchma, who is supporting the prime minister. They also claim Mr. Yanukovych is too close to Russian President Vladimir Putin and would bring .....

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: georgesoros; prutnik; putin; russia; soros; ukraine; yanukovych; yushchenko
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I searched and didn't find this posted already.

Also, as in the American election, billionaire George Soros, who poured millions of dollars into efforts to defeat President Bush, is also spending millions on the campaign against Mr. Yanukovych, said Eduard Prutnik, the prime minister's adviser, on a visit to The Washington Times yesterday.

Can this be true? I would have thought for sure Soros would back Yanukovych, not campaign against him.


1 posted on 12/02/2004 6:55:29 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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2 posted on 12/02/2004 6:57:26 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP! ©)
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To: MeekOneGOP

Maybe Soros is trying to repair his reputation. Whatever the case, Soros is clearly not someone who can be accused of having a healthy intellect. Perhaps he's so stupid he's come full circle, and for once is backing the right guy.


3 posted on 12/02/2004 6:59:34 AM PST by Trippin
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To: MeekOneGOP

What's the expression? Even a monkey can be right some of the time?


4 posted on 12/02/2004 7:00:28 AM PST by madameguinot
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To: madameguinot; Trippin
haha! I think ya'll are on to something there. Thanks. :^)

5 posted on 12/02/2004 7:01:47 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP! ©)
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To: MeekOneGOP
Is this guy for anything? He seems to only spend his money in opposition to various causes. Thankfully, to little affect.
6 posted on 12/02/2004 7:05:37 AM PST by Reaganesque
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To: MeekOneGOP
The Nov. 21 runoff between Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych and Viktor Yushchenko, a former prime minister, is too close to call. Each candidate received about 39 percent in the first round of voting on Oct. 31. Ukrainians appear divided between Mr. Yanukovych's rural supporters and Mr. Yushchenko's urban ones.

Well, Yanukovych won by around 800K votes in the end. And it was from a neat east west divide of the country, not urban-rural.

Take a line at the middle of the Moldavia-Ukraine border, and draw a lazy arc up and to the right to just west of Kharkov. Everywhere east and south of that line voted 60-90% for Yanukovich, with heavily urbanized and industrialized Donetsk going for him by over 90%, and Kharkov by over 70%. Everywhere west and north of that line voted 60-90% for Yushchenko, with L'viv going for him by over 90%, and K'yiv by over 70%. The only closely divided region was the rural area southeast of K'yiv.

Results here - http://ic-www.cvk.gov.ua/wp0011e

7 posted on 12/02/2004 7:08:55 AM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: madameguinot
I believe the expression is:

"Even a painted clock is right twice a day."

A good illustration is Jesse Jackson's opposition to gay marriage.

BTW, the article ignores, since it's impossible to explain away - ego-driven trouble-maker Soros' meddling not withstanding - that the reform movement enjoys the full support of both the Ukrainian Catholic Church and virtually the entire worldwide Ukrainian expatriate community.
8 posted on 12/02/2004 7:09:28 AM PST by GMMAC (lots of terror cells in Canada - I'll be waving my US flag when the Marines arrive!)
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To: GMMAC

I'm glad you said that -- that the Catholic Church, etc., support the reformers. Else I was thinking -- 'if George Soros supports this, perhaps I need to rethink it.'


9 posted on 12/02/2004 7:21:15 AM PST by bboop
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To: MeekOneGOP

We are not being told the real story here.

Besides both guys names beginning with Y, we have been told for a week now that $oreA$$ and GW are supporting the same guy.


10 posted on 12/02/2004 7:26:11 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Writers of hate GW/Christians/ Republicans Articles = GIM=GAY INFECTED MEDIOTS!)
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To: Trippin

my guess is he has money in it. that he's bet alot on purchasing businesses in the area, and they would only payoff if yushchenko wins. or something like that.


11 posted on 12/02/2004 7:29:06 AM PST by KOZ. (Reducing liberalism from a threat to a mere nuisance. Just like prostitution.)
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To: bboop
Site of petition campaign and for related on-line information from various global sources:
http://www.yushchenkothewillofthepeople.com/

Note: the above url links to a site sponsored by a Canadian federal Liberal MP of first generation Ukrainian descent but seems fairly non-partisan and, beyond the petition, has further links to worthwhile resources including articles documenting Catholic and expatriate support for the reform movement.
12 posted on 12/02/2004 7:39:36 AM PST by GMMAC (lots of terror cells in Canada - I'll be waving my US flag when the Marines arrive!)
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To: Trippin
Maybe Soros is trying to repair his reputation.

Nah, if Russia starts expanding its hegemony, it will be another reason to support a strong America; Soros would hate that.

13 posted on 12/02/2004 7:47:13 AM PST by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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To: GMMAC

Do you have a link where it says the Ukrainian Catholic Church backs Yuschenko? I'd be really shocked because he is the pro-abortion, and pro-sodomy candidate.

Yanukovich said he's going to commit to the War on Terror. He's keeping the troops in Iraq, unlike his opponent. He has the rural support, which in my opinion is better than the urban, look at who wins the US similar areas. There are a lot of God fearing good people even in the cities, but as a percentage of a local population, its more likely they're rural. I'm saying this as a city dweller, as a percentage of the population in an area, there is likely to be a higher percentage of the population of good people in rural areas. Numbers wise the city may have more, but they're outnumbered by those secularists who want death on demand and sodomy for all. Yanukovich is much more conservative socially. And did I mention, he's for keeping their troops there, so 1600 more of ours are able to go elsewhere?


14 posted on 12/02/2004 7:48:19 AM PST by GopherGOPer
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To: GopherGOPer
Do you have a link where it says the Ukrainian Catholic Church backs Yuschenko? I'd be really shocked because he is the pro-abortion, and pro-sodomy candidate.

where have you heard that? imho, the race there is alot more basic then any of these specific issues. the election is about freedom from russia and communism.

15 posted on 12/02/2004 7:51:31 AM PST by KOZ. (Reducing liberalism from a threat to a mere nuisance. Just like prostitution.)
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To: GMMAC

I just clicked on your link to the Yuschenko+socialist Canadian MP site. Nowhere could I find a link saying the Catholic Church supports this candidate in any way shape or form. Please, if you find a link, I really want to see it.


16 posted on 12/02/2004 7:52:15 AM PST by GopherGOPer
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To: MeekOneGOP; Poohbah

You know, maybe Yanukovych isn't so bad after all. If George Soros hates his guts, he must be okay.


17 posted on 12/02/2004 7:52:58 AM PST by hchutch (A pro-artificial turf, pro-designated hitter baseball fan.)
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To: KOZ.

There was a lot of links on the other threads describing this election. In several of the threads linked material shows that Yuschenko does in deed support abortion. Many also show that he is pro sodomy. I'll dig some of the threads up.


18 posted on 12/02/2004 7:54:54 AM PST by GopherGOPer
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To: GopherGOPer

Irrelevant. Yanukovych's attempt to steal the election will not be permitted to stand.


19 posted on 12/02/2004 7:58:10 AM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: hchutch
Right.
All of the thugs, corrupt gangsters and pro-Russian boot-lickers in the Kuchma clique can't possible have any vested interest the outcome of the election.

If the Catholic Church and millions of Ukrainians the world over don't agree then they've obviously been bought off by Soros.

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20 posted on 12/02/2004 8:07:20 AM PST by GMMAC (lots of terror cells in Canada - I'll be waving my US flag when the Marines arrive!)
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