Results in Ohio Still Contested (Death By Laughter Alert!)

Akron Beacon Journal ^ | 12/02/2004 | Steven Thomma

[RockinRight]

Blackwell for Governor...then for President!

[Semper Paratus]

most showed that President Bush won the pivotal battleground state Nov. 2 and with it a second term.

Which ones showed that he didn't?

[meandog]

Cliff Arnebeck, an attorney for the group. ``It's a fix. Whether they had the computers rigged to do this, we'll find out.''

>...I heard this idiot on C-Span this a.m. (naturally, he was never challenged about his assertions by the "host") but one of the callers that did challenge him was a guardsman from Ohio who summed up my rage (words to the effect): "Mr. Arnebeck, it is people like you who've demean service to our country...and I'll be damned if I'm going to let you get away with this attempt to overturn my president and commander in chief!"

[chimera]

Another complaint: The Ohio results contradicted exit surveys showing Kerry ahead in the state. Pressed to explain how that was evidence of fraud, Arnebeck said exit polls were better proof of voting than vote results.

Unbelievable. So it is better to go with the polling data than the actual vote totals? Well, that would sure save people standing hours in line to cast their ballots.

But, in a way, it is the characteristic leftist view of the world: perception trumps reality, i.e., there is no such thing as objective truth.

[jackbill]

The Ohio results contradicted exit surveys showing Kerry ahead in the state. Pressed to explain how that was evidence of fraud, Arnebeck said exit polls were better proof of voting than vote results.

This idiot - Arnebeck - was on C-SPAN this morning, spewing lie after lie, after lie. In defense of journalists, he said that once the journalists did the recount in Florida in 2000, they showed that Gore won.

Typically, the hosts of C-SPAN's Washington Journal do not question guests or express their own opinions but Steve Scully couldn't let that one go by. He asked for the source of that info because everything that he (Scully) had read indicated that Bush won.

Arnebeck didn't slow down at all and just repeated the lie. It was so bad that I couldn't watch. He brought up the race card again and again, talking about "suppressing the black vote", etc., etc., ad nauseum.

What a POS.

[TNCMAXQ]

I would give anything to see someone like Ken Blackwell or Mike Steele as president in my lifetime. Imaging the horror the Dems would experience to see a black conservative Republican as president! For Blackwell to be governor of a major state like Ohio would be enough of a jolt to them.

[AmericanInTokyo]

I dunno. beats me.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

I'd like to know more about Mr. Blackwell. Sounds like he could be a comer...

[You Dirty Rats]

I'd like to know more about Mr. Blackwell. Sounds like he could be a comer...

Maybe the 'Rats and the Leftist Media will start smearing him like they did with Condi. If they do, that will amount to flushing more of what little credibility they have left right down the toilet.

[KwasiOwusu]

"``The exit-polling process is sponsored by news organizations, which are professionally committed to truth"

Truth like in Dan Rather and his fraudulent documents?

[xzins]

Amen!

He is very, very good.

[xzins]

Amen!

He is very, very good.

[RockinRight]

I think Blackwell has a damn good shot at winning in 2006 as long as he makes it through the primary. He can win the general against any Ohio Democrat, but I worry Petro might beat him in the primaries.

[RockinRight]

He's one of the front-runners for the Ohio Gubernatorial race for 2006. He has a good shot too.

[longtermmemmory]

This entire Ohio BS is typical leftist / democrat tactics. Accomplish by concealment to avoid public oposition.

They are still trying to win in the court when the public rejects them at the ballot box. This time they have learned to minimize media coverage.

[CaptSkip]

These people would be sad and pitiful if they weren't so dangerous.

Some of the Rabid at DU want new efforts of futility: Contact and Change Republican Electors Votes.

benburch (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-01-04 11:39 PM

Original message

New target acquired; Republican Electors.

Friends,

I propose that we need to prepare lists of all Republican electors in the nation for the purpose of contacting them directly to convince them to change their vote to Kerry.

We'd need; Name, home address, phone number, FAX number, and email address for as many Republican electors as we can find.

We should also prepare contact materials so that people will have an idea of what arguments might work with a Republican. I think we should impress upon them that their future safety depends on a Kerry victory, as Bush has mismanaged things to the point of making us all less safe daily.

[xzins]

Ken Blackwell has awesome credentials and not just as a conservative republican. He is everything that Jesse Jackson isn't. Read below.

J. Kenneth Blackwell brings a distinguished record of achievement as an educator, diplomat and finance executive to his current position as the 51st Secretary of State of Ohio.  As Secretary of State, he serves as Ohio’s chief elections officer and administrator of official records. Mr. Blackwell's public service includes terms as Mayor of Cincinnati, an undersecretary at the U.S. Department of Housing & Urban Development, U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Human Rights Commission, and Treasurer of the State of Ohio.  He is currently a vice president of the National Association of Secretaries of State, a member of the board of directors of the Campaign Finance Institute in Washington, D.C., a member of the Advisory Panel of the Federal Elections Commission, and a member of the board of directors of the John M. Ashbrook Center for Public Affairs (Ashland University).  He is president of the National Electronic Commerce Coordinating Council, a member of the Harvard Policy Group on Network-Enabled Services and Government, and a member of the Advisory Board of The Princeton Review.   In March 2002, he was recognized as one of the top 25 government leaders in information technology by Government Technology magazine, and he later delivered the keynote address at Governing magazine’s national conference on “Managing Technology.”  Over 20 years ago, he began his work in using technology to help government fulfill its mission and commitment to citizens as a member of the board of directors of Public Technology, Inc., located in Washington, D.C.  He currently serves on the board of directors of the International City Management Association/Retirement Corporation. A certified government finance manager, Mr. Blackwell is on the board of directors of the National Taxpayers Union, and was formerly a domestic policy analyst at the Heritage Foundation in Washington, D.C.  He has served as the vice chairman of the Working Group on Soft Dollars and Commission Recapture for the U.S. Department of Labor's Advisory Council on Employee Welfare and Pension Benefit Plans (E.R.I.S.A.).  He was a delegate to the National Summit on Retirement Savings in both 1998 and 2002.  He served on the National Commission on Economic Growth and Tax Reform, and in 1998, he co-edited a book with Jack Kemp, entitled, IRS v. The People:  Time for Real Tax Reform. Mr. Blackwell has also served on the boards of directors of Physicians for Human Rights, the International Republican Institute and the Congressional Human Rights Foundation. He was a scholar-in-residence at the Urban Morgan Institute for Human Rights at the University of Cincinnati College of Law.  As United States Representative to the U.N. Human Rights Commission, he led the U.S. delegation to all four of the preparatory meetings for the 1993 World Conference on Human Rights.  He is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, the board of directors of the American Council of Young Political Leaders and the National Council of the United Nations Association of the USA.  He presently serves on the Board of Governors of the International League for Human Rights and the National Council of the Lawyers Committee for Human Rights.   His international activities have taken him to 53 countries and strengthened his understanding of emerging international markets and the growth of democracy worldwide.  Mr. Blackwell has held the nation's highest security clearance, and has twice received the U.S. Department of State’s Superior Honor Award for his work in the field of human rights from the Administrations of Presidents George H.W. Bush and William Jefferson Clinton. He holds Bachelor of Science and Master of Education degrees from Xavier University (OH) where he later served as a vice-president and member of its faculty.  In 1992, he received Xavier's Distinguished Alumnus Award.  He has been a Fellow at Harvard University's School of Government, the Aspen Institute, the Salzburg Seminar in Austria and the School of Advanced International Studies at Johns Hopkins University (British-American Project).  His continuing education has included executive programs at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Harvard. Among his awards are honorary doctoral degrees from several institutions of higher education in Ohio, including Ashland University, Cincinnati Technical College, Urbana University, Wilberforce University, and Wilmington College, as well as from Franklin Pierce College in New Hampshire.  He is a recipient of  the Veritas Award from Albertus Magnus College in New Haven, Connecticut. In 1998, Mr. Blackwell delivered the Beckett Lecture on Religious Liberty at Oxford University.  He has also lectured at Harvard, the University of Newcastle in England, the Moscow State Institute for International Relations in Russia, and the International Academy of Public Administration in Paris. His commentaries have been carried in major newspapers across the United States, including The Wall Street Journal and The New York Times, as well as all major newspapers in Ohio.  He is a frequent guest on network and broadcast news and public affairs programs, including The O’Reilly Factor, Crossfire, Inside Politics, The Jim Lehrer Newshour, and Hardball with Chris Matthews. Mr. Blackwell is a lifelong resident of Cincinnati, where he was born on February 28, 1948.  He and his wife of thirty-four years, Rosa, have three children, Kimberly, Rahshann, and Kristin.  In 1994, the Blackwells were honored as one of The National Council of Negro Women’s Families of the Year, and, in 1996, Mr. and Mrs. Blackwell together received the Martin Luther King, Jr. Dreamkeeper Award.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

That's quite a bio.

[xzins]

There is no better candidate for governor in our entire state.

Or we can get another of the taft clones....sort of like Paris Hilton are the tafts...famous for being famous.

[mollynme]

``In southern Ohio, there's no reason to believe a black female candidate would be outperforming Kerry,'' said Cliff Arnebeck, an attorney for the group. ``It's a fix. Whether they had the computers rigged to do this, we'll find out.''

He may be right. The fact that a liberal is elected in a conservative area could be an indication of democratic voting fraud.