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Americans don't want socialism
Sun Sentinel ^ | Dec 2, 2004 | Daniel Smith

Posted on 12/02/2004 5:44:19 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

In her Nov. 23 column, Maureen Dowd repeatedly calls Republicans Visigoths. She is right. The Visigoths revolted against Rome because of oppressive taxation. Sound familiar?

Democrats will never understand nor accept that Americans just do not want to be a socialist nation. Look at the Democratic National Committee's beloved Canada and France for the reasons why...

I also resent the fact that she considers Kerry a war hero. While I applaud anyone who serves this country, to spend only 41/2 months in Vietnam, then speak against the USA and discard his medals is not heroic. I wonder if Maureen has ever actually seen these medals. And her demigod Clinton was a draft dodger...

(Excerpt) Read more at sun-sentinel.com ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: dowd; visigoths

1 posted on 12/02/2004 5:44:19 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Nice article, I'm going to have to bookmark it for future debates. The Democrats are really duplicitous.


2 posted on 12/02/2004 6:02:03 AM PST by mgist
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Actually somewhere around 30% of Americans DO want socialism. Another 15% could take it or leave it. That is how Kerry got 48% of the vote. Oh, that doesn't add to 48%? You are right - the difference is the fraudulent votes the RATs manufactured.


3 posted on 12/02/2004 6:09:18 AM PST by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

The author is right, Americans DON'T want socialism. And there's nothing wrong with that. What ever happened to diversity? Can't there be one place on the planet where people are free to control their own destiny?


4 posted on 12/02/2004 6:20:03 AM PST by beef ("Blessed are the geeks, for they shall inherit the earth.")
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Democrats will never understand nor accept that Americans just do not want to be a socialist nation.

Before the party's infiltration by sixties radicals, it wasn't socialist. It is now, and and they persist in believing that they can continue to obscure this fact. I fear they might be right, some Dem pols DON'T EVEN KNOW their policies would be responsible for bringing capitalism to its knees in this country.

We must continue trying to EXPOSE them for what they are, and in some cases bring them out of their slumber. (think Zell Miller).

5 posted on 12/02/2004 6:35:24 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Yeah - Americans don't want the socialism - they just want all the social programs and do not want to pay for it.


6 posted on 12/02/2004 6:36:04 AM PST by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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To: wayoverontheright
Before the party's infiltration by sixties radicals, it wasn't socialist.

A Communitarian Ethos

The Groton influence of Endicott Peabody showed in a speech Roosevelt gave at the People's Forum in Troy, NY in 1912. There he declared that western Europeans and Americans had achieved victory in the struggle for "the liberty of the individual," and that the new agenda should be a "struggle for the liberty of the community." The wrong ethos for a new age was, "every man does as he sees fit, even with a due regard to law and order." The new order should be, "march on with civilization in a way satisfactory to the well-being of the great majority of us."

In that speech Roosevelt outlined the philosophical base of what would eventually become the New Deal. He also forecast the rhetorical mode by which "community" could loom over individual liberty. "If we call the method regulation, people hold up their hands in horror and say ‘un-American,' or ‘dangerous,'" Roosevelt pointed out. "But if we call the same identical process co-operation, these same old fogeys will cry out ‘well done'.... cooperation is as good a word for the new theory as any other."

7 posted on 12/02/2004 6:40:18 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Many Americans DO want socialism. But most only want fascism. And welfare-statism.

Almost none want freedom. That includes the ones who say they do.

8 posted on 12/02/2004 6:45:07 AM PST by Protagoras (People who have abortions are guilty of infanticide.)
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To: tacticalogic
In that speech Roosevelt outlined the philosophical base of what would eventually become the New Deal. He also forecast the rhetorical mode by which "community" could loom over individual liberty.

True enough, I was going by the fact that John Kennedy had embraced capital gains tax cuts, income tax cuts, deregulation, etc., the party was heading, in my view, away from its prior collectivist tendencies, then the infiltration of the not-so-closeted socialists in the sixties. I include Bill Clinton in this group.

9 posted on 12/02/2004 6:56:06 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Really? Have you seen the latest spending bill?


10 posted on 12/02/2004 6:57:03 AM PST by Wolfie
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Most Americans don't know what 'socialism' means.

But they love its tenets when they are advanced by 'Progressives' and Democrats. Many would love a national, government-run health-care system. Many would love to tax the wealthy into oblivion.

Many look to Europe and its bevy of democratic-socialist 'nanny-states' as a template for our future.

Socialisms goal when finally achieved is nothing more... than passive, mediocrity.

11 posted on 12/02/2004 6:57:36 AM PST by johnny7 (“An where do 'youz get off 'callin me Nick?!” -Sheldon Leonard)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Bump


12 posted on 12/02/2004 2:53:53 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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