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"The Education of Dan Rather"- Peggy Noonan captures Rather's rise, arrogance and dastardly fall
Opinion Journal ^ | 12-2-04 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 12/01/2004 10:05:53 PM PST by STARWISE

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To: Sal
One Freeper's tagline said something like: Give Mary Mapes a chunk of coal, tell her to shove it, two weeks later get a diamond. Wish I could remember which Freeper to give credit.

Bueller?
Bueller?
Bueller? ;^)

61 posted on 12/02/2004 5:16:50 AM PST by ABG(anybody but Gore) ("Oh no, not Hans Brix!")
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)

Was it you? If so, thank you for a really good laugh.


62 posted on 12/02/2004 5:21:52 AM PST by Sal
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To: STARWISE
"The old network hegemony is over"

The implications of these 6 words are immense. This succinct statement sums the hundreds, perhaps thousands of posts to media bias threads.
63 posted on 12/02/2004 5:36:37 AM PST by bert (Don't Panic.....)
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To: Happy2BMe

"The Sheeples expect nothing less. They will get nothing more."

With all due respect, in light of the last election and the fact that the MSM is going the way of the dodo, I think we might reexamine whether the term "sheeple" is valid.

I "rather" suspect it is not.

:-)


64 posted on 12/02/2004 5:45:20 AM PST by SerpentDove (Welcome to Gloat Central. Pull up a chair.)
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To: STARWISE

Worth reading for what she says ... about Richard Nixon.


65 posted on 12/02/2004 5:49:45 AM PST by aculeus
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To: shezza

Except this show she wrote for him was a daily 5-minute radio commentary...not his evening news broadcast.


66 posted on 12/02/2004 5:50:50 AM PST by txrangerette
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To: ForGod'sSake
"He fit right in. And much of what he'd learned--from the civil rights movement, from Vietnam and from Watergate--...."

Was the *programmed* response of a quisling.

"...allowed him to think he was rising in the right way and with the right crew and the right thinking."

Yea well the damage he inflicted upon the nation, culture, and so many other facets of American life were all the result of what he'd thought.
If this clown's remembered by me, a'tall, it'll be for that damage.

Noonan's being very charitable, having a forgiving tone almost, of the traitorous shill.

A "keeper"?
No thanks.

...& that's all I'll say.

67 posted on 12/02/2004 7:06:38 AM PST by Landru (Indulgences: 2 for a buck.)
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To: budwiesest
Screw these ambulance chasers with microphones

Rather reported from a open-air desk set with his back to a collapsed California two-stack freeway, waiting for them to pull the crushed and mangled bodies out.

He was obviously very distressed. Why? Because, thank G-d, there were only a couple or so. Not the dozens and hundreds he had pumped and stroked his followers for.

Day after day, hour after hour, he sat there selling soap and cars packaged in a promise of human blood and guts to come.

68 posted on 12/02/2004 7:16:30 AM PST by bvw
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To: Common Tator

An article you might enjoy.


69 posted on 12/02/2004 7:16:43 AM PST by prairiebreeze (It's my right to publically celebrate Christmas and state my faith in Christ. At least for now.....)
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To: upchuck

Arrogance takes people down, indeed. It is written: Pride goes before a fall. I'm expecting more of the media leads to fall by the wayside. May people of true honorable character surface and be a positive influence in the liberal minds who love to adopt the thinking espoused by the news.


70 posted on 12/02/2004 7:22:13 AM PST by Hila
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To: SerpentDove
Can 49 million sheeples be wrong?

('At's a lot 'o sheeples, bud.)

71 posted on 12/02/2004 7:23:09 AM PST by Happy2BMe (It's not quite time to rest - John Kerry is still out there (and so is Hillary))
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To: STARWISE

Bottom line, Dan was an elitist liberal and his shaping of stories and teleprompter reading reflected that. America moved away from him.


72 posted on 12/02/2004 7:32:14 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Junior

Different than my usual pings, but this is a wonderfully crafted piece. A great read.


73 posted on 12/02/2004 7:40:33 AM PST by cjshapi
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To: Bonaparte
She is much more generous with Rather than I could ever be.

Regards,

TS

74 posted on 12/02/2004 7:44:03 AM PST by The Shrew (www.swiftvets.com & www.wintersoldier.com - The Truth Shall Set YOU Free!)
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To: snarks_when_bored

Whoops, you're right. "What you said!"


75 posted on 12/02/2004 7:56:22 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: PhilDragoo; STARWISE


76 posted on 12/02/2004 7:57:11 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP! ©)
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To: STARWISE

I wouldn't agree that she "captures" it.

I think it's an almost even-handed essay. The credit she gives him is, I think, fair. But she goes too easy on the fault he deserves, and the blame and reproach he has richly earned.

Dan (not Rather)


77 posted on 12/02/2004 8:00:25 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Landru
Noonan's being very charitable, having a forgiving tone almost, of the traitorous shill.

Agreed. I was even a little put out with some of her, uh, charity. But after all this is Ms. Noonan. She's allowed some emotionalism, eh?

A "keeper"?
No thanks.

...& that's all I'll say.

I'm NOT gonna take THAT to the bank ;^)

FGS

78 posted on 12/02/2004 8:17:43 AM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: ForGod'sSake
>...& that's all I'll say.
"I'm NOT gonna take THAT to the bank"

HA!!

*Familiarity*

...how contemptuous. ;^)

79 posted on 12/02/2004 8:21:06 AM PST by Landru (Indulgences: 2 for a buck.)
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To: prairiebreeze
An article you might enjoy.

I am not as kind to Dan Rather as Peggy is. I was at the press conference Nixon held at the NAB convention in Houston Texas. It was during Watergate. Rather instead of asking Nixon a question went into a long accusatory speech. Rather ended his long diatribe with a "When did you stop beating your wife?" type question.

Nixon asked Rather if he was running for office. It was a mild rebuke because Rather was acting like a candidate running against Nixon not a journalist trying to learn what was going on.

Rather replied, "NO. Are you?" Rather's weak reply told me two things. Rather is not quick on his feet and he is not very smart. If he doesn't have a Peggy Noonan to put words in his mouth, he is up the creek with out a paddle.

Rather can best be described as a dishonest reporter on one of the big three networks. His goal back then was to GET Nixon. Later his goal was to get Reagan. His goal was to get G.H.W. Bush. His goal was and is to get G. W. Bush. He has never tried to make the nation better. He has never been about getting the story for the people. He has always been about the destruction of Republican Presidents of the USA and advancement of the socialist agenda.

In my opinion Rather and ilk are enemies of freedom and of our nation. They are all about power, control, and the leftist agenda.

They are being destroyed by their own bias. But more can and should be done to expose the over the air networks for what they are.

What needs to be done is for government to investigate the ratings scandal. For over a decade the three networks have leaned heavily on Neilson to pad the rating results in their favor. The three over the air networks and their stations pay the lions share of the rating fees. They do their best to see that ratings are massaged to favor the networks.

Go to one hundred homes and note what they are watching. Now look at the ratings. You will find that far fewer people are watching the three over the air networks than the ratings show.

We need a congressional investigation to document the fraudulent ratings that cause advertisers to over pay for spots on the network shows.

Note that the Swift Boat Vets bought Cable networks and had a huge effect. Kerry's 527s bought the over the air networks and their stations for far more money and had far less impact.

That is one media scandal that congress should expose and it would solve the network news bias problem. Rather and all the rest would be out of business.

80 posted on 12/02/2004 8:22:26 AM PST by Common Tator
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