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The Moon? Mars? Forget About It!
MichNews.com ^ | 12/01/04 | Alan Cruba

Posted on 12/01/2004 4:42:44 PM PST by KevinDavis

As entertainment, I have always particularly enjoyed any television show or movie about space voyage. There’s something compelling about a group of people, dependent on a space ship to carry them to or from danger. It is, as any Star Trek fan will tell you, “the final frontier.” It is also largely absurd. Particularly when it involves billions of dollars this nation can ill afford to throw at a space program that robots could perform better than people.



Recently, I read an article by William Tucker, “The Sober Realities of Manned Space Flight”, that was published in the December 2004 edition of The American Enterprise magazine. Tucker began by noting that President Bush’s suggestion of a 280 million-mile manned space flight to Mars was a good idea. It is, in fact, an astonishingly bad idea, but even Presidents have a right to have bad ideas. “A quick NASA calculation,” noted Tucker, “revealed that the Mars effort would cost nearly $500 billion over 30 years.” Now take that figure and double it. Any estimate like that which is provided by a government agency—any agency—is usually wrong by a factor of two, three or higher.

I was quickly reminded of the spectacular and tragic failures of two Space Shuttles, one when it was launched and the second when it was returning to Earth. “The Space Shuttle was originally supposed to break even and fly every two weeks,” said Greg Klerkx, the author of “Lost in Space”, a critique of NASA. Instead, “it ended up costing $500 million per launch, and flying four or five times a year.” You should think of the Space Shuttle as a very expensive truck used to ferry cargo to the International Space Station.

Even the space stations, first Skylab, then the Russian’s Salyut and Mir, failed to lead to the development of larger facilities manned by dozens of scientists and others who would learn what it would take to create entire space colonies. Nor, with good reason, did we ever return to the Moon.



Today’s International Space Station, conceived in 1984, cost taxpayers $11 billion by 1992 and was still on the drawing board! At that point, the Clinton administration brought in the Russians to help, scaled down the project, and by a single vote in 1993, the House threw another $13 billion at it. The first stage was lifted into orbit in 1995 and, as Tucker notes, “when completed, the ISS will hold six astronauts. The two in residence now spend 85 percent of their time on construction and maintenance. In essence, the US is spending billions so that two astronauts can build a space shed.” By the time it’s finished, it will cost an estimated $150 billion.



Why didn’t we return to the Moon? Why aren’t there huge space stations? As Tucker points out, the experiments on the long-term effects of life in zero gravity demonstrate that humans do not belong in space. “The news has not been good. Muscles atrophy quickly and—for reasons yet unknown—the human body does not manufacture bone tissue in space.” Moreover, the Moon “is a barren oxygen-less desert.” Want to see a desert? We have them right here on Earth.



Humans returning from any extended time in space have the consistency of Jell-O. They are virtually helpless and take days to recover from the experience. Now think about the suggestion by President Bush that we send astronauts on an 18-month journey to Mars. Not only would their bodies suffer ill effects, they would be exposed to huge doses of cosmic radiation. We’ve already managed to kill two Space Shuttle crews, how many more times do we have to do this before we decide to abandon this bad and very expensive idea?

Much of what is required to launch and maintain those machines we send into Earth orbit can be and is done without using Space Shuttles. They have become the equivalent of trolley cars. Trolleys are useful on the sharp inclines of San Francisco streets and picturesque in New Orleans. I’ve been on both. They’re slow and most people still drive their own cars around these cities.



It is the unmanned probes that have been the most successful ventures of NASA and therein lay several simple truths. (1) Humans are neither designed, nor intended to function in outer space and (2) technology permits us to do all the exploration we need to at this point in time. (3) Space probes are far less costly than Space Shuttles that have to be rebuilt from scratch every time they fly. (4) They are far less expensive. (5) No one gets killed.



At this point, I am sure there are those who want to speak poetically of the need to explore outer space by sending manned expeditions “because it is there” or on the chance that there is intelligent life “out there” with which we might come in contact. If it is intelligent, it already knows that the Earth runs red with the blood of its habitants every day as humans kill one another for political or religious reasons and we animals eat one another. Moreover, despite some lovely beaches and spectacular mountain ranges, large areas of the Earth are not the most hospitable places for the humans and other creatures that inhabit it.



So let me suggest that we not waste more billions on NASA’s Space Shuttles and International Space Station. Let’s not go to the Moon again or even think about going to Mars. It’s a really dumb idea. Those privately funded space vehicles will cost you $200,000 a seat to float around for a few minutes or look out the window and see the Earth floating and spinning.



Like we say in New Jersey, forget about it. What I really want is an automobile that will run on salt water. We have plenty of that.


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Very short sighted ....
1 posted on 12/01/2004 4:42:45 PM PST by KevinDavis
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2 posted on 12/01/2004 4:43:30 PM PST by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: KevinDavis

If I am not on the list, put me there.


3 posted on 12/01/2004 4:47:43 PM PST by U S Army EOD (John Kerry, the mother of all flip floppers.I)
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To: KevinDavis

If theres one thing JFK was right about it was the need to explore space. Too bad he isn't around to slap some sense into todays democrats.


4 posted on 12/01/2004 4:48:31 PM PST by cripplecreek (I come swinging the olive branch of peace.)
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To: KevinDavis

"... Blah, blah, blah, it's too hard, we can't do it, space sucks.... blah, blah, blah..."


5 posted on 12/01/2004 4:50:25 PM PST by Pelayo
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To: KevinDavis

How about forget about this fool. This country was founded on exploration and risk taking. That is why we are even here in the first place. These guys have always been around, the Earth is flat, man will never fly, will never go faster then sound, will never go to the moon. For centuries people like this make the same arguements. They were wrong everytime. Besides, he cant stop it, it is in our nature as humans beings to explore. It is inevitable. If it were not our nature we would have perished long ago.


6 posted on 12/01/2004 4:50:43 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Pelayo

I just ignore these people sometimes...


7 posted on 12/01/2004 4:51:02 PM PST by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: Names Ash Housewares; All

I agree with you.. I would like to see the ideals of our founding fathers spread throughout this universe...


8 posted on 12/01/2004 4:52:54 PM PST by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: KevinDavis

This guy thinks that's a lot of money, someone
should tip him off to the MUCH vaster amount
poured down the social/welfare rat hole since
LBJ foisted the "Great Society" off on this nation.


9 posted on 12/01/2004 4:53:44 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: KevinDavis


We have to start now to find a new home. ; ) Five hundred or so million years will pass before you know it, and this neighborhood will have degraded severely.


10 posted on 12/01/2004 4:53:48 PM PST by Technical Editor
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To: KevinDavis
I envision three ways for humans to leave this planet in the distant future.

1. Necessity.....we will use up all the raw materials and energy supplies and or be threatened with extinction from an asteroid impact.

2. World wealth will grow to where anything is affordable.

3. Earth will be visited by friendly aliens.

11 posted on 12/01/2004 4:54:27 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (NO PRISONERS!!)
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To: cripplecreek

JFK was so sickly he could hardly stand and he had no sense to slap


12 posted on 12/01/2004 4:54:50 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell (See and decide for yourself)
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To: tet68; All

There is a double standard with NASA...


13 posted on 12/01/2004 4:55:41 PM PST by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

I wouldn't rely too heavilly on my sense if I were you.


14 posted on 12/01/2004 4:57:06 PM PST by cripplecreek (I come swinging the olive branch of peace.)
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To: KevinDavis

I'd hate to be stuck in a space walk having to yell, "Open the pod bay doors, Hal."


15 posted on 12/01/2004 5:11:43 PM PST by tellw
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
I think there are more possibilities than three, and I actually don't believe in "Friendly Aliens".
Profit could be a great motivator. There is money to be made in space, big money. The development, tooling, and infrastructure building requires the government,most likely.
I would not be surprised if the first "space colonists" were some religious sect or cult.
The author of the article is correct that robots could do the exploration and most of the work more efficiently and economically than humans. We're going out there. Out of necessity or curiosity, we're going. I won't live long enough to see it but my granddaughter might.
16 posted on 12/01/2004 5:13:37 PM PST by MagnumRancid
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To: KevinDavis

Are you saying NASA sucks hind teat?


17 posted on 12/01/2004 5:15:49 PM PST by MagnumRancid
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To: KevinDavis

18 posted on 12/01/2004 5:18:22 PM PST by Old Professer (The accidental trumps the purposeful in every endeavor attended by the incompetent.)
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To: MagnumRancid

They need to get some robotic HDTV cameras on Mars and make a feature presentation. They could do it for a fraction of the cost of sending humans and do it a decade sooner. That way everyone could take a virtual trip to Mars. IMAX could make a fortune. The profits on the distribution rights to the film could be, well, out of this world.


19 posted on 12/01/2004 5:21:39 PM PST by Search4Truth (When a man lies he murders some part of the world.)
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