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Dutch debate euthanasia for babies
www.news.com.au ^ | 1 December 2004 | Aussie Dasher

Posted on 11/30/2004 9:13:52 PM PST by Aussie Dasher

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I thought we beat the Nazis!

It's all a natural progression: kill one, kill all.

1 posted on 11/30/2004 9:13:52 PM PST by Aussie Dasher
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To: Aussie Dasher

Pretty much the same article has already been posted twice...

Important article.


2 posted on 11/30/2004 9:18:20 PM PST by little jeremiah (Moral Absolutes? Do they exist? If so, what are they and where did they come from?)
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To: Aussie Dasher

You've got the wording correct--natural evolution sounds so much less alarming. This article is chilling. Who calls the shots, where is the line drawn?


3 posted on 11/30/2004 9:20:59 PM PST by pelikan
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To: little jeremiah

Third times a charm. I blogged on it as probably everyone else did as well (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=Blogbat). Hugh Hewitt tonight had a great program about this. Refreshingly deep and on point.


4 posted on 11/30/2004 9:22:09 PM PST by blogbat (Blogbat: ein Fahrgeschäft durch die Weltnachrichten)
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To: Aussie Dasher
In a public healthcare system, everyone becomes a number, and the weakest and most helpless are increasingly as a liability against the system. And the most helpless (unborn or too young to have any will) become the prey in a morally vacant atheistic culture.

Van Gogh's murder woke people up to their terrorist problem, I hope this wakes up the moral God-fearing people there.

5 posted on 11/30/2004 9:22:14 PM PST by eagle11 (Passivity and Appeasement is No Way to Run a Civilization!)
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To: eagle11

I hope this MAKES for some God-fearing people there. Else some of the weaker among them may soon be God-seeing.


6 posted on 11/30/2004 9:24:03 PM PST by blogbat (Blogbat: ein Fahrgeschäft durch die Weltnachrichten)
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They are halfway down the slide of the slippery slope. Why stop at newborns? What about terminal two and three year olds? What about babies who would live a long life but are disfigured?

Sickening.

7 posted on 11/30/2004 9:26:53 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: blogbat

This truly is deplorable. I can understand adults defending their right to die if they have a terminal illness, but who is anyone to speak for the right of a dying infant, who cannot speak for his or herself, to die? Shameful. I hope the Dutch Parliament strikes this proposal down.


8 posted on 11/30/2004 9:28:24 PM PST by TLOZ
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ping


9 posted on 11/30/2004 9:29:07 PM PST by shibumi (John Galt is alive and well. He tends bar in a casino restaurant.)
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To: Aussie Dasher; All
Here's a link to this discussion occurring elsewhere: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1291296/posts?page=134#134
10 posted on 11/30/2004 9:29:27 PM PST by sandalwood (Pat Toomey for Governor (PA))
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To: Aussie Dasher

Saw a NewsMax article with the same information.


11 posted on 11/30/2004 9:30:03 PM PST by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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Euthanasia opponents view the prospect with horror while advocates call it a natural evolution.

The "fools" who believe in a Creator hold that "all men are created equal, endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights." One notes by contrast that Darwinian natural selection presumes that all humans evolve unequally, are subject to no moral authority, and are therefore free to duke it out for survival by whatever means they see advantageous.

It would seem that unalienable rights, as endowed by a Creator, is a concept so important that, if there wasn't a Creator we would be best off maintaining whatever pretense necessary that there is.

12 posted on 11/30/2004 9:31:08 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: TLOZ

Yes, but its what you get when you recognize any version of a "right to die".

Morality is either arbitrary and constructed by men and thus no rights exist at all and there is no value to life at all or morality is the result of principles willfully set forth by a Creator. If the former is true, we are but pounds of flesh so there is no matter in the case. If the latter be true then we are not our own and have no more right to arbitrarily end our lives as the lives of others who are not causing us harm.


13 posted on 11/30/2004 9:33:13 PM PST by blogbat (Blogbat: ein Fahrgeschäft durch die Weltnachrichten)
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It's now a small step to the following:

"Mr Smith, we know that you're a smoker and that you consume more than two alcoholic drinks per day. To spare you the misery of cancer and cirrhosis (not to mention the fact that you voted Republican in the last four elections) the State has, in its mercy decided....."


14 posted on 11/30/2004 9:33:20 PM PST by shibumi (John Galt is alive and well. He tends bar in a casino restaurant.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Guess the Nazis were just 50 years behind the times. Somewhere in the pits of hell, Hitler has a reason to smile.


15 posted on 11/30/2004 9:33:34 PM PST by COEXERJ145
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To: blogbat

What points did he make, if you don't mind telling those who didn't hear him?

Here are links to the other two threads, some good discussion.



http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1291296/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1291352/posts


16 posted on 11/30/2004 9:36:49 PM PST by little jeremiah (Moral Absolutes? Do they exist? If so, what are they and where did they come from?)
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To: Aussie Dasher

I suspect the pro-choice crowd will start defending this another late-term abortion that is necessary for the health of the mother.


17 posted on 11/30/2004 9:41:38 PM PST by tbeatty (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to eat salad.)
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To: blogbat

Who was it who said "It's only a small step from the "right to die" to the "duty to die"?


18 posted on 11/30/2004 9:42:47 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (Stop Hillary - PEGGY NOONAN '08)
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To: little jeremiah

Grazie. The show covered the topic of the value of life as devinely breathed verses its value as a matter of happenstance, our slide back into the darkages of the pre-judeo-Christian era and all of its trappings.


19 posted on 11/30/2004 9:43:54 PM PST by blogbat (Blogbat: ein Fahrgeschäft durch die Weltnachrichten)
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To: Aussie Dasher

I just read your FR page, and welcome. You've come to the right place, and God bless our Aussie allies. We really have so much in common.


20 posted on 11/30/2004 9:44:49 PM PST by xJones
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