Posted on 11/30/2004 11:20:24 AM PST by kidd
Parents who spank their children as a form of discipline are not necessarily engaging in child abuse, even when they use a belt and leave a bruise, the state Appellate Court has said.
In a ruling released Monday, the judges recognized a parent's right to use "reasonable physical force" to discipline a child. They said that, before citing someone for physical abuse, the Department of Children and Families must take into account the circumstances surrounding the use of corporal punishment.
The judges said the agency's position that any non-accidental injury caused by a parent to a child qualifies as abuse is too narrow and in conflict with state law that allows "reasonable" corporal punishment of a child.
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Probably because we don't accept your premise that they are the same thing. Duh.
So in your opinion, people who are poor, ignorant, and live in trailer parks, are trash.
I read ya. You're just a plain old looking down your nose, yankee busybody. Your opinion no longer carries any weight with me.
I think you missed my point, which had to do with the subjectivity of what's appropriate corporal punishment.
I make note the fact that you find it impossible to make your point without name-calling. Sorry, but it doesn't reflect very well on your position.
OK, so if it would be a dependent offspring (say a retarded adult child) would it be OK to spank them with a belt and leave a bruise? Is it OK to spank the mentally ill or retarded?
There is a middle ground of discipline. It isn't either spanking or a completely undisciplined child. I'm sure we all know parents who don't do a thing to discipline their kids. I see it way too often. Parents who don't want to ever be the "bad" person and set boundaries and limits. In my opinion that is just as bad as the other extreme of hitting your kid to discipline them.
I stand by my pinhead statement from before.
You are asking ignorant questions in order to elicit a response. You have no intention of debating.
I'll tell you this, if it is not your dependent offspring, it ain't your business.
That's because their houses are too small to keep everything hidden inside from the public view like wealthier people can do.
I had my butt warmed numerous times when I was young. I'd also like to add that these spankings occurred at the hands of my college educated parents in the $2 million home I grew up in.
You can't make gross generalizations about how parents discipline their children without angering a lot of people. Every child is different, and if a parent finds that a spanking is the most effective way to get an important message through to a child then I'm all for it.
Talk about thin-skin.
I agree with everything you write here... was there anything I wrote that led you to think that I believe differently?
"But really, only trash hit their kids."
I think that is an extreme and insulting statement. There is an enormous difference between "beating" a child and spanking a child. I do not think they are the same at all. I have, on exceptional occasions, spanked my three kids, when they were younger, under the age of 10 actually. My youngest will be 16 in January. I AM NOT TRASH. I am a parent who loves her children more than my own life.
Spanking was always done as a last resort in response to a child whose attention could not be obtained in another way. Done to correct any situation that I, a responsible parent, felt needed to be corrected. My goal has been to raise well mannered and responsible children. You are very fortunate if your children were receptive to discussion, reasonng, time outs and deprivation of favorite toys. That just does not work with all children.
You referred earlier to the "mother" caught on video slapping and "beating" her little daughther in the parking lot after the child misbehaved in that store. This woman was not disciplining her little girl. She was having a temper tantrum of her own and venting on the helpless child. If I recall correctly, she had also been denied a questional refund by the store, and was most probably ticked off at being denied the money. Please don't equate repulsive behavior like that with responsible, loving discipline directed toward a child God has placed in the care of a loving mom or dad. Okay?
pattyjo
No, I was basically emphasizing your point with my own take on discipline.
I don't believe the old "every child is different" argument. The child is different because they were allowed to get that way from lack of discipline at the necessary points in their development.
Quite frankly, after 8 kids, I've decided to raise cats. Same mess, less stress.--- and I can get them fixed before they breed...
Liberal Troll.
Hey, it's not like he called 'em trash.
But I guess that answers the question. For you at least.
What?
Oh brother.
Read my tagline.
Who was I insulting?
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