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Mr. Trippi, who managed Howard Dean's presidential campaign, is a fellow at Harvard's Kennedy School and an MSNBC commentator.

Sounds to me like a winning prescription -- for Republicans -- but why not push to have Dean take over for McAuliffe? -- Ed.

1 posted on 11/30/2004 5:50:00 AM PST by OESY
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YES! Depending on the Grassroots (far left) is certainly a winning strategy. Go for it!


2 posted on 11/30/2004 5:53:37 AM PST by Iowa Granny
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but why not push to have Dean take over for McAuliffe? -- Ed

Do you think the Dean Scream will work for Hillary? If Dean is the head of the DNC, can he energize candidates to be like him and get folks like Hillary to do the scream?

3 posted on 11/30/2004 5:58:01 AM PST by sr4402
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Democrats are the party of irresponsibility. So long as they remain so they will either continue to lose elections (the good result) or rule an irresponsible society (the bad result).


4 posted on 11/30/2004 6:00:32 AM PST by laredo44 (Liberty is not the problem)
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The only thing that can save the depraved, decadent, immoral, dissolute, mendacious, deceitful Democrats is truth, and that's the very thing that will destroy them and everything they stand for.


5 posted on 11/30/2004 6:01:49 AM PST by Savage Beast (This is the choice: confrontation or capitulation. Appeasement is capitulation.)
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If we had a "free press" instead of the "Media Wing of the Democratic Party" Bush would have won by 40%. John Kerry was an utterly unqualified candidate, but the media made sure the truth didn't get out to many.


7 posted on 11/30/2004 6:02:19 AM PST by MisterRepublican ("I must go. I must be elusive.")
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And so begins the power struggle between the "moderate" and the Karl Marx wings of the democrat party.


8 posted on 11/30/2004 6:03:35 AM PST by Morgan's Raider
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Democrats can't keep ignoring their base. Running to the middle and then asking our base to make sure to vote isn't a plan....

I love this. Move further to the left. Yeah! That's the ticket.

9 posted on 11/30/2004 6:08:34 AM PST by The_Victor (Calvin: "Do tigers wear pajamas?", Hobbes: "Truth is we never take them off.")
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I think Dean should take over the 'rat party.....heh heh heh

We might get what some of us really want....a contest between real conservatives and real socalists instead of socalism with a conservative bent and conservativism with a socalist bent.

If most of the people choose socalism...I will have to change the way I operate. I will have to find out where the hand-out offices are and I need to quit working so many hours.

Finding out where the handouts are would be easy however......all I have to do is ask most any illegal mexican.

10 posted on 11/30/2004 6:08:43 AM PST by B.O. Plenty
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Democrats can't keep ignoring their base. Running to the middle and then asking our base to make sure to vote isn't a plan....Very few good ideas come from the middle, and they tend to be mediocre....

Couldn't agree with you more, Mr. Trippi. You keep running to the left and don't look back--we're right behind you....promise.

11 posted on 11/30/2004 6:13:24 AM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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As long as the far laft runs the DemoRat party, they will continue to get thumped with alarming regularity, plain and simple. However, all these scholarly post-mortems of the 2004 election ignore that obvious truth. I hope they continue to ignore it and sink into oblivion, where they belong.

As long as the DemoRat candidate has to continue to "sing the songs" demanded by the Hollywood, tree-hugger, ex-hippies that run the party - they will continue to alienate the majority of America.

The problem is that these far left types enjoy being Captain of the ship so much, they don't care if it is named Titanic?


12 posted on 11/30/2004 6:17:06 AM PST by Barnstormer
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Also, we must all work diligently in the coming months to convince “progressives” that the Democratic Party has let them down. They must abandon the party. Their only recourse is to join and work for the Green Party moving forward. I may even register as a Green Party member to swell their voter registration rolls. Divide and conquer.

Begin with putting all known “progressives” in your sphere of influence on the Green Party mail list from their website. Great fun. Start inundating them with information now.


14 posted on 11/30/2004 6:18:39 AM PST by schaketo (http://www.gp.org/ Convince progressives to join the Green Party – Divide and conquer)
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Dear Mr. Trippi, The biggest problem with the dimocratic party is your base - it's increasingly marginal and loony.

"• ...Very few good ideas come from the middle, and they tend to be mediocre...."

Excellent - that should do it.

Signed,

Just Trying to Help

15 posted on 11/30/2004 6:22:57 AM PST by Let's Roll (For a guy who shirked his own job, Kerry sure was eager to tell others how to do theirs ...)
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Democrats must reconnect with the energy of our grass roots.

What grass roots is he talking about?

If Trippi would take time to look at that red-blue, county-by-county map, he'd find that a grass roots movement has to involve more than large blue population centers.

The Democrats are going the way of the Whigs, but they haven't figured that out yet.

16 posted on 11/30/2004 6:23:33 AM PST by Noachian (A Democrat, by definition, is a Socialist.)
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"Mr. Kerry was a weaker candidate than Mr. Gore."

I have never agreed with this idea. Both Gore and Kerry were, and are, awkward, unattractive, spoiled, lefty, loons, the endless fraudulent puffery both received from the ratmedia notwithstanding. The crucial difference this time around was Bush and Rove's four-year, grassroots vote building effort, particularly in targeted states such as Ohio and Florida. Bush and Rove's plan and its execution worked very well. That is the big difference between 2000 and 2004.

17 posted on 11/30/2004 6:26:14 AM PST by Irene Adler
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The Democratic Party has been infiltrated by anti-capitalists, the only way they get votes is by buying them, and now most of their "bought" constituencies are at lager-heads.

Greens oppose drilling in ANWR, unions want it....black parents want vouchers, the NEA opposes them....everybody in America wants tort reform, the lawyer lobby opposes.....

Everytime they say the voters "didn't get their message", I rejoice, because their problem is the voters do "get" their message, despite all the attempts to obscure it.

18 posted on 11/30/2004 6:27:46 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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"Hard-a-starboard! Full speed astern . . . hard to port!"
(Orders during the Titanic's collision with the iceberg)


19 posted on 11/30/2004 6:50:03 AM PST by Graymatter
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There are a number of Democatic candidates that would appeal to the base to which Trippi refers: Al Sharpton; Dennis Kucinich; Jesse Jackson; or perhaps even Michael Moore himself. I hope that one of them gets the nomination. Unfortunately, I don't think that the Unibomber can run because he is a felon, but he would certainly appeal to the Democratic left.


20 posted on 11/30/2004 7:50:24 AM PST by djpg
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...But the problem for Democrats is not Mr. Rove; it's that they're doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result. That's the definition of insanity....

The insanity is alive and well over on the DU board.

Those nutcases think the answer to the demoRats problems are to move the party even farther to the left!

DUH!

24 posted on 11/30/2004 11:52:10 AM PST by Walkin Man
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bump.


25 posted on 11/30/2004 11:58:47 AM PST by Zack Nguyen
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This is some of the most inept analysis I have seen in weeks.

Trippi is basically saying that the democrat party must be more like Howard Dean - pandering to hate America leftists, brainwashed and drugged out college kids, radical street level activists, and out of touch Northeastern liberals.

Well, I can tell you that if you thought Kerry got creamed, Howard Dean would have been a total massacre. It was not an act when the GOP were salivating over the possibility that Dean might have won. Dean was the guy who openly championed gay marraige and made the primary veer hard left.

Kerry did pander to his base and pretty had it locked up. They do go out and vote. What the democrats lost is jsut about any swing vote out there. It allied itself with Micheal Moore and the hate-America rich in Hollywood. It allied itself with social radicals pushing bad values that America rejected. It offered surrender and appeasement instead of hope, leadership, and strength.

I could go on and on, but the democrats lost because their base is out of touch with America and they ran on it. I hope they take his advice. Many of my GOP associates/friends say they are not sure the democrats would learn after this election. After reading this, I am pretty sure of that.

26 posted on 11/30/2004 11:58:48 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (I am poster #48)
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