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THE GLOBAL WARMING SCANDAL
Izvestia Science ^ | 11:21 15.07.04 | Sergei Leskov

Posted on 11/29/2004 5:48:20 PM PST by FreedomCalls

The Kyoto protocol is a “brown plague”, according to Russian president’s adviser

There’s been a big scandal echoing around the premises of the Russian Academy of sciences this week. A number of foreign scientists of authority, who never participated in the UN commissions on the subject, took part in a seminar on climate change and the Kyoto protocol for the first time. ...

... Anyway, the first meeting between the Russian and Western experts on climate change went way beyond the scientific discussion and didn’t produced the results that were somehow expected.

According to Andrei Illarionov, the Kyoto protocol comprises “assorted falsified statements. There’s no real proof to back any of the scientific statements contained herein. The climate balance hasn’t been disrupted. Floods and droughts don’t occur more frequently than before. As regards the hurricanes, the wind speed is in decrease. There’s no link between the statistics with respect to contagious diseases and the variations of temperatures. The temperatures have been slightly rising over the last 100 years. But the process can be explained by natural factors, it doesn’t stem from some man-made activities. Carbon dioxide doesn’t impact the temperatures, it’s vice versa. The temperatures have an impact the content of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. The Kyoto protocol can be likened to some totalitarian ideology like national socialism, Marxism etc. European countries were once controlled by the power of ‘brown plague’. Today’s ‘plague’ has a different color. This plague is threatening the world and Russia again stands in the way. There’s an all-out war going on against our country, and war implies casualties. However, Russia has no solid grounds whatsoever for signing the Kyoto protocol.”

The U.S. and Australia pulled out of the Kyoto protocol which was ratified by European countries. Russia’s stance on the agreement is crucial for its implementation. The mechanisms of the agreement aimed at curbing green house emissions into the atmosphere can be eventually put into gear only if Russia ratifies the document. But the agreement could seriously hinder Russia’s anticipated economic growth. For example, the agreement provides for the sale of emission allowances in the neighborhood of $4 to $5 per one ton while the amount of a fine for breaching the allowances can jump to $160 to $600 per ton within the next few years.

... Every witness has his own story to tell. The saying fits well in the debate on the Kyoto protocol. Scientists have different opinions on the subject. It’s small wonder since supercomputers are still incapable of producing a climate change pattern even for the near future, not to mention things expected in the long run. The actual climate change patterns are still based on a limited number of parameters. They look oversimplified and remind those old theories of the flat earth that were popular centuries ago.

... Nils Merner from the Stockholm University claims that findings gained by numerous researches on location don’t show any threat of flooding to the Maldives (according to data contained in the Kyoto documents, the islands are doomed to flooding). At a maximum, the water level is expected to rise 5 cm under the calculation accuracy 15 cm plus or minus. Professor Paul Writer from the Pasteur Institute points out openly that the Kyoto experts on virology are a bunch of dilettantes whose names are unheard of in the scientific community. He stresses solid evidence showing links between epidemic diseases and a large number of factors. In his opinion, it’s just ridiculous to use the temperature variations as the main cause behind the spread of epidemics.

... It’s still unclear whether the global warming is coming. No clarity about the future of the Kyoto protocol either. One thing is clear enough, though. The above issues have given rise to much controversy.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalwarming; kyoto; russia; scandal
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Looks like some Russian scientists aren't too keen on the science behind the Kyoto Accords.
1 posted on 11/29/2004 5:48:21 PM PST by FreedomCalls
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To: FreedomCalls; farmfriend; Libertarianize the GOP

Good news....maybe they will change Putin's mind.


2 posted on 11/29/2004 5:51:19 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: FreedomCalls
Hmmm.. Still no "mental" in "environmental".

#1 "greenhouse gas"... water vapor

#2 "greenhouse gas" ... political hot air.

3 posted on 11/29/2004 5:52:31 PM PST by xcamel (W2: Four more years of Tax Cuts and Dead Terrorists)
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To: FreedomCalls
the science behind the Kyoto Accords.

the science behind the Kyoto Accords says that the Kyoto protocols will do zip, zilch, nil to slow global warming.

4 posted on 11/29/2004 5:53:04 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: FreedomCalls

There is more voodoo than science behind the Kyoto Protocol. It is another means by which the UN can extort cash from wealthy, productive nations.


5 posted on 11/29/2004 5:55:05 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Half a league, half a league rode the MSM into the valley of obscurity)
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To: FreedomCalls

bump for later


6 posted on 11/29/2004 5:55:44 PM PST by Ditter
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To: FreedomCalls; abbi_normal_2; Ace2U; adam_az; Alamo-Girl; Alas; alfons; alphadog; amom; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
7 posted on 11/29/2004 5:56:49 PM PST by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: FreedomCalls

When someone can tell me beyond any shadow of a doubt what the weather will be the day after tomorrow, I will start to think about being concerned with global warming and the weather 50 years from now.


8 posted on 11/29/2004 5:57:22 PM PST by carlr
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To: FreedomCalls; Carry_Okie; SierraWasp; calcowgirl; hedgetrimmer; DoughtyOne
The Kyoto protocol can be likened to some totalitarian ideology like national socialism, Marxism etc.

We knew that. Most environmental crap is.

9 posted on 11/29/2004 5:59:10 PM PST by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: FreedomCalls

I hope Bill Oh'Really reads this. Isn't he a proponent of global warming? Oops, sorry, he doesn't care unless it helps him get Dan BLather's job.


10 posted on 11/29/2004 6:02:21 PM PST by caisson71
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To: farmfriend
The Kyoto protocol can be likened to some totalitarian ideology like national socialism, Marxism etc.

,,, damned right - and what exactly can carbon credits buy?

11 posted on 11/29/2004 6:12:13 PM PST by shaggy eel
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To: FreedomCalls
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12 posted on 11/29/2004 6:13:20 PM PST by FreeKeys ("There is always an easy solution to every human problem: neat, plausible and wrong."- H. L. Mencken)
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To: FreedomCalls

It's part of the goofiness of the whole con game...

For more info on "Green Communism" look here:

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13 posted on 11/29/2004 6:15:33 PM PST by woodb01 (See the ANTI-DNC Web Portal at ---> http://www.noDNC.com)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Good news....maybe they will change Putin's mind.

Putin was well aware that the treaty was garbage, he supports it because of poltical presures.

14 posted on 11/29/2004 6:15:35 PM PST by Always Right
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To: FreedomCalls
One word: DUH!!
15 posted on 11/29/2004 6:17:13 PM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: shaggy eel
,,, damned right - and what exactly can carbon credits buy?

A pass from the greenies.

16 posted on 11/29/2004 6:20:13 PM PST by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: FreedomCalls

Hmmm, maybe the left ought to concentrate on the 'cow toot' hypothesis again?


17 posted on 11/29/2004 6:20:35 PM PST by eeriegeno
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To: shaggy eel
About enough gas to power an ant's motorcycle twice around a Cherio... seriously, you are exactly correct. Envirowhack is about stealing from you and the free world.
18 posted on 11/29/2004 6:24:55 PM PST by Issaquahking ( Bush won, Arafat is dead! Life is good!)
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To: FreedomCalls
The temperatures have been slightly rising over the last 100 years.

I find it hard to believe that we had an accurate measure of earth's temperature 100 years ago to know that warming has occured during the last century.

Something I was wondering about though, wouldn't there have been forest fires all over the globe burning without much human intervention one hundred years ago and wouldn't these fires throw enough debris into the air to cause at least one degree of cooling worldwide? How much warming do humans account for over the last hundred years and if it is precisely the amount that the actual earth temp has warmed, would it be the first hundred year span in the history of earth that the earth didn't naturally warm or cool to some degree?

19 posted on 11/29/2004 6:26:33 PM PST by Jim_Curtis (Liberals lie at the premise, accept their premise and you can only lose the argument.)
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To: WildTurkey

What science behind the Kyoto accords?


20 posted on 11/29/2004 6:32:58 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (NO BLOOD FOR CHOCOLATE! Get the UN-ignoring, unilateralist Frogs out of Ivory Coast!)
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