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To: Timedrifter
NO they are not related to Turkmen. They are not related to the kazaks either. I believe their name Cossack comes from the Turkish meaning wanderer but that's it. The Cossacks were fierce turk fighters. And they sided with the Whites thus suffering greatly when the Bolsheviks took power. Great people and are making a comeback. Enjoy this fascinating work of art.


In 1676 the Turkish Sultan Mohammed IV offered the Zaporozhye Cossacks who lived near the Dniepr rapids to become his subjects. They wrote him a mocking letter spurning his offer

13 posted on 11/29/2004 6:29:27 PM PST by eleni121 (NO more reaching out!)
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To: eleni121

that is a great painting, here is some history on it:

These [Cossack attacks] so inflamed the hatred of the Muslims toward the Zaporozian Cossacks and the entire Christian population of Ukraine that the Turks decided to attack the Zaporozian Seech and raze it to the ground. There is a popular tradition that, before sending his troops to the Zaporozian Seech, Turkish Sultan Muhammad IV sent to the Zaporogians a letter demanding they submit voluntarily to him, an unconquerable knight. To the Sultan's letter, the Cossacks responded with free choice of words in a letter of their own. It denied the Sultan all honor, cruelly mocking the boasts of an "unconquerable knight." Many who treasure South Russian lore preserve copies of this letter of the Turkish Sultan and of the quaint reply of the Zaporozians. The letter may be fictitious, but it is entirely consistent with the spirit of the Zaporozian Cossacks.

Sultan Mahmud IV to the Zaporozian Cossacks:
As the Sultan; son of Muhammad; brother of the sun and moon; grandson and viceroy of God; ruler of the kingdoms of Macedonia, Babylon, Jerusalem, Upper and Lower Egypt; emperor of emperors; sovereign of sovereigns; extraordinary knight, never defeated; steadfast guardian of the tomb of Jesus Christ; trustee chosen by God himself; the hope and comfort of Muslims; confounder and great defender of Christians -- I command you, the Zaporogian Cossacks, to submit to me voluntarily and without any resistance, and to desist from troubling me with your attacks.
--Turkish Sultan Mahmud IV

The following translation appeared in M.B. Kuropas, "The Saga of the Ukraine," MUN Enterprises, © 1961:

The Kozaks of the Dnieper to the Sultan of Turkey:
Thou Turkish Satan, brother and companion to the accursed Devil, and companion to Lucifer himself, Greetings!
What the hell kind of noble knight art thou? The Devil voids, and thy army devours. Never wilt thou be fit to have the sons of Christ under thee: thy army we fear not, and by land and on sea we will do battle against thee.
Thou scullion of Babylon, thou wheelwright of Macedonia, thou beer-brewer of Jerusalem, thou goat-flayer of Alexandria, thou swineherd of Egypt, both the Greater and the Lesser, thou sow of Armenia, thou goat of Tartary, thou hangman of Kamenetz, thou evildoer of Podoliansk, thou grandson of the Devil himself, thou great silly oaf of all the world and of the netherworld and, before our God, a blockhead, a swine's snout, a mare's ___, a butcher's cur, an unbaptized brow, May the Devil take thee! That is what the Kozaks have to say to thee, thou basest-born of runts! Unfit art thou to lord it over true Christians!
The date we write not for no calendar have we got; the moon is in the sky, the year is in a book, and the day is the same with us here as with thee over there, and thou canst kiss us thou knowest where!


16 posted on 11/29/2004 6:39:04 PM PST by KOZ. (Reducing liberalism from a threat to a mere nuisance. Just like prostitution.)
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