Posted on 11/29/2004 2:35:59 PM PST by Next_Time_NJ
With your help, we are standing up for the right to vote, and the right for votes to be counted. David Cobb of the Green Party and Michael Badnarik of the Libertarian Party have filed for a recount of the presidential ballots cast in Ohio, New Mexico, and Nevada, and have filed a lawsuit in Ohio to make sure there is sufficient time to recount every ballot. The initial Ohio recount filing fees and expenses were paid with the help of thousands of small donations from all over the country. We appreciate your support of the recount, and of a more open and accountable vote-counting process.
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I was late to the party. Thank you for your information. I'm glad to hear the Libertarian party is Patriotic(USA) and not Socialist(Anti-USA), as the Democratic party has become, IMHO.
Thanks again. The Country is tense right now.
So, how does it feel being used by a bunch of mentally disturbed fascists?
The remaining credibility of the Libertarian Party is fast sinking by Bednarik's antics.
Liberty, that all sounds great, let's count all the votes blah, blah, blah, this isn't to help Kerry Yada, Yada, Yada. So how come the Libertarian party has not filed lawsuits in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan or Minnesota?
Kinda funny how the Libs and the Watermelons are fronting this for the Kerry campaign. Though it does explain the stone cold silence from that side of the aisle concerning the election.
Course, they just may be deathly afraid of the recount itself.
Time left to file suit in Chicago and Philly?
You're welcome. I agree - too tense. That's why I think we should support the recounts and the investigations. It's worth it just to ease these people's minds, IMHO.
I first saw Badnarik on tv in a 3rd party debate he participated in at Columbia U. with the Greens, Socialists and Constitution parties. When he spoke, I was very interested in what he had to say, but then he ruined it with bringing up the DEMOCRAT LIE about the draft. The guy is a jerk--Why did he lie unless he wanted to hurt Bush? Now that he's joined in on this recount effort (and again, meant to hurt Bush as it's only in states where Bush won narrowly, but not in those where Kerry barely won) I'll never listen to one word he or his party has to say, ever.
I doubt it very much.
I'm not into easing their minds. I want these psychos emotionally destroyed.
Yet Pennsylvania, Kerry's win by an even smaller margin than Bush's in Ohio, is not being recounted???? It's the same as what is happeneing in Washington. Cherry-picking the states/precints they want where they can "find" votes weeks after the election. I DO hope the Republicans are keeping track of this though. even though Bush's win will hold. I can't wait until the electors vote just so I don't have to hear about it anymore
So how come the Libertarian party has not filed lawsuits in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan or Minnesota?
Exactly!!! Pennsylvania has an incredible fraud problem in Philadelphia...(third parties taking absentee votes from prisoners and carrying them to the precincts,etc) and the margin of Kerry's victory is smaller than Bush's in Ohio. So let's get real here!
Oh, you'll hear about it even after the electors vote for Bush. The liberals will chant for years how the massive "fraud" and "irregularities" were not resolved (and of course it ONLY happens on the gop side) and if they had been, Kerry would have won. They'll keep on saying that Bush didn't win--I guess it's therapeutic for them.
Hey Liberty, if Bednarik is not just riding the Green's coattails why are the only challanges in states the President won? Of course you can't answer that question, because there is no logical answer.
Back in the Weimer days the KPD (Communist Party) had a saying, "After Hitler, our turn." This was their policy of refusal to join a electoral coalition with the SPD (Social Democrats), who they had so much in common with against the threat of the National Socialists. Hitler, of course, was canny enough to cut a deal with the Prussian Junkers represented by the Nationalist Party and formed his first government.
The KPD did receive its turn--twelve years, millions of lives and a destroyed contienent later...on one-third of the old Reich. Actually one-quarter since their brothers in revolutionary solidarity grabbed by Silesia, Prussia and most of Pomerania for themselves.
Your precious little political party and the little man at its head chose to align itself with those who wish you and your family personal harm if they have the opportunity at seizing power.
It all comes to this: if you know EXACTLY what they stand for then why do you stand WITH them?
I also weary of your inane attacks on the GOP. They are immature, lacking an understanding of the pragmatic realities in modern American politics.
"I do have a question for you though - if there are so many problems with the electoral system in Pennsylvania how come the REPUBLICANS aren't yelling about it... Complain to your Republican officials there in Pennsylvania - don't wait for us to do the work and protect your rights for you...we are Libertarians and we don't believe in being anyone's nanny."
First...Bush has won the election, therefore, why spend the money necessary for a recount in PA? And I think you're a bit hypocritical here. If there are so many problems in Ohio, why are the Libertarians paying for it?? Why isn't Kerry doing the work for it, suing for it, and using his excess money? It's not as if the Libertarian or Socialist candidate can win! Whether you like it or not, you're being the "nanny" for the Dems
I'm afraid you are the one casting aspersions of an inane nature against the Libertarian Party and it's supporters by comparing the current situation to pre-Nazi Germany and the LP to a Communist Party. I have plenty to back up my attacks against the GOP for the policies and laws they have passed and promoted during the last 4 years - if not going back even further than that...
As far as I'm concerned both the Republicans and the Democrats are guilty of supporting ideas that serve to hurt my family and those I love. R's and D's have BOTH passed laws that violate the Constitution, and serve to take away our freedom. Why do YOU stand with THEM?
Honestly, when it comes down to it we are ALL Americans and one of the things that makes our country great is the fact that we have a good electoral system. I DON'T want these problems to turn into an excuse for the Democrats to push a NEW electoral policy upon our nation... We need to fix the problems - NOW - so they can't screw it up any further!
I'd hate to see our electoral process ruined because the Republicans were too busy worrying about who was behind what rather than fixing the real problems that do exist. As I stated earlier, if these real problems aren't fixed then it will probably be the Republicans who are complaining after the next election. (Because the Dems will have figured out a way to use the flaws to their advantage).
Also, if you would be so kind, please do point out to me the so-called pragmatic realities of modern politics that you claim I do not understand. Are you saying that due to modern realities the Constitution and the Bill of Rights shouldn't be as binding - or that there are times when we must pass exceptions to the laws? I don't think any of the founding fathers would agree with you if that's what you are suggesting... I know I don't. There is never any reason good enough to ignore the Constitution.
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