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How much $$ anually does America give to the world [Re: Stephanopoulos' Sunday Show] (Vanity)

Posted on 11/29/2004 12:51:09 PM PST by soundandvision

After hearing Rush play the clip of Tony Campolo on George Stephanopoulos' show from yesterday I got very curious as what the actual dollar amount we send to other nations, anually.

Is there a website that tracks this or is there a government website that at least shows the tax payer dollar amount?

I know Campolo is full of it... but I'm just curious how full of it he is...


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1 posted on 11/29/2004 12:51:10 PM PST by soundandvision
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To: soundandvision

It's typically divded into military and non-military.

It's a much, much, much, much tinier portion of the Federal Budget than people generally imagine.


2 posted on 11/29/2004 12:52:24 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: soundandvision

How much? Too much!


3 posted on 11/29/2004 12:52:59 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: soundandvision

The UN = Too much


5 posted on 11/29/2004 12:54:25 PM PST by RandallFlagg (FReepers, Do NOT let the voter fraud stories die!!!! (Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name))
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To: soundandvision

in view of those ingrates who turn around and piss on the USA when we need their help (e.g. Eygpt at $2.4 billion last year), I really think we need to de-fund USAID and the United Nations (an oxymoron really!!) and a lot of other organizations too!


6 posted on 11/29/2004 12:55:23 PM PST by prophetic ("I think you can be an honest person and lie about any number of things."--Dan Rather)
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To: soundandvision

I saw that clip with George and after hearing that Americans give less to the world (I don't remember the exact quote), then others, I turned it off. To hear France, the UN and the Left wingers tell it, we are a stingy bunch and I have always found that very hard to believe. I await the proof, either way.


7 posted on 11/29/2004 12:56:13 PM PST by mad puppy ( "He's with me!" And I'm with W.)
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To: soundandvision

You must include USAID, the inter-american bank, funds to the UN and a whole lot more than direct payments. Also the Millenium Challenge account and the AIDS Africa project.


8 posted on 11/29/2004 12:56:26 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: soundandvision

Compolo and his ilk think only gov't money helps anyone.

For example, does Compolo include Jimmy Carter's NGO that helps fight certain diseases in Africa?

Americans give more to all sorts of charitable causes per capita than anyone in the world!


9 posted on 11/29/2004 12:59:24 PM PST by hlmencken3 ("...politics is a religion substitute for liberals and they can't stand the competition")
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To: soundandvision

"As of November 17, 2003, the United States had paid the UN over $897 million in calendar year 2003,"

Well, there is $897,000,000 we could save.

http://www.un.int/usa/03budget1118.htm


10 posted on 11/29/2004 1:06:21 PM PST by mad puppy ( "He's with me!" And I'm with W.)
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To: hlmencken3

It's never the governments job to take money from its people and distribute it to other governments's people.


11 posted on 11/29/2004 1:06:23 PM PST by wannabeyank (The official Voice of Reason)
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To: hlmencken3

According to the U.N. (if they can be believed) The United States' contribution to fighting global AIDS is more than double the contributions of all others combined.


12 posted on 11/29/2004 1:07:45 PM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: Strategerist

The point is not what % of the budget it is, the point is how much are we giving to ungrateful miscreants that should instead be spent to improve the lives of American citizens?

If it's 100 billion that's money that should be spent here, not given away to god knows who for god knows what.


13 posted on 11/29/2004 1:13:22 PM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: soundandvision

And according to this:

http://www.usaid.gov/policy/budget/cbj2005/pdf/fy2005summtabs1_150acct.pdf

USAID will cost $31,519,189,000 for 2005.


14 posted on 11/29/2004 1:13:28 PM PST by mad puppy ( "He's with me!" And I'm with W.)
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To: massgopguy; wannabeyank

Check ou these:

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/mort/zuckerman071702.asp

http://www.policyreview.org/oct03/brooks.html

http://www.chatabouthistory.com/Increasing_Private_Charity_in_Europe-3083076-477-a.html

PDF Warning:
http://www.maxwell.syr.edu/maxpages/faculty/acbrooks/Charity%20in%20Spain.pdf


15 posted on 11/29/2004 1:16:09 PM PST by hlmencken3 ("...politics is a religion substitute for liberals and they can't stand the competition")
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To: wannabeyank

I suppose that if we were left to our own judgement regarding what charities and causes to give OUR money to, that would be prejudicial against all of the unpopular, unproductive, corrupt bureacracies that manage most foreign governments and major "charitable" organizations.

No, no... better for everyone if we just allow all our funds to be taken by our own unpopular, unproductive and corrupt bureacray, and let them make such enlightened decisions on our behalf.

Remember kids: If you criminalize control of your own property, only criminals will have control of their own property.

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"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the constitution which granted a right to congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents..." -James Madison


16 posted on 11/29/2004 1:18:16 PM PST by Sionathan
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To: soundandvision

And this:

"...pointed out that the United States will this year spend $2.4 billion, nearly twice as much to fight AIDS as the rest of the world's donor governments combined.."

from

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-07-14-aids-defense_x.htm


17 posted on 11/29/2004 1:19:52 PM PST by mad puppy ( "He's with me!" And I'm with W.)
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To: soundandvision

Also remember that the socialists will only count the government spending as going towards a total. I know that I and members of my family practice giving through our church also and that much of this $$ finds its way overseas.


18 posted on 11/29/2004 1:27:11 PM PST by Owl558 (Don't tread on me!)
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To: mad puppy
"I saw that clip with George and after hearing that Americans give less to the world (I don't remember the exact quote), then others, I turned it off. To hear France, the UN and the Left wingers tell it, we are a stingy bunch and I have always found that very hard to believe."

You are right to be very skeptical of the figures which have been bandied about by the liberals and the America haters.
What these guys do basically is to take a very narrow definition of aid and giving.
The fact of the matter is that private individuals and organizations from America (like the Bill Gates Foundation) give far, far, far more aid to the world than from any other countries.
The Bill Gates Foundation for example, gives more to stop diseases like malaria in Africa and India than the entire European Union.
Factor in the aid from private individuals and foundations and America's aid as a percentage of GDP is suddenly looking as high , if not higher than those of the Euro-weenies.

The liberals will work their butts off to keep propagating the myth that America gives less, by taking just direct government grants alone, which is just not right.
America is a capitalist country, and private firms and individuals contribute far more to the American economy than in Europe, so of course private giving should be part of the equation.
I remember Condi Rice telling off one arrogant female British government minister (Claire Shot), when that minister made this same suggestion. Condi pointed out t her, that Americans are the most generous people on the planet, by bringing up these same points about giving by private individuals and foundations.
The Euro-weenies of all people should know that. America gave them free money in Marshal Aid, after WWII to the tune of Trillions of Dollars in today's money.
19 posted on 11/29/2004 1:34:49 PM PST by KwasiOwusu
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To: mad puppy
so $31 Billions of our hard earned and HARD TAXED money given away to Anti-American ill wishers, especially to Muslim countries who do little or nothing to stop the wild imams spewing the "KILL AMERICANS" rhetoric.

I just love that movie Swordfish where they have the line "If they kill an American, we bomb their country". I really think the USA should tell these terrorist regimes to f##k *ff or die in a more stronger message.

20 posted on 11/29/2004 1:38:58 PM PST by prophetic ("I think you can be an honest person and lie about any number of things."--Dan Rather)
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