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To: Pitiricus

Interesting, yet flawed. John Adams and Gerge Washington were devout Christians. They make GWB seem like a non-believer.

Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin saw flaws in the main Christain denominations of their day, but both professed belief in Christ as the true Son of God.


4 posted on 11/29/2004 7:32:03 AM PST by pissant
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To: pissant

John Adams was unitarian...


8 posted on 11/29/2004 7:36:01 AM PST by Pitiricus
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To: pissant
"But who are American Christians, where do they come from, and what do they want?"

Could there be a question anymore inane than this?

Between believers in Christ and those who without direct faith in him yet obedient to him by the laws he's written in our minds and hearts showing their lawful behavior..........these are those that have kept the foundations from crumbling whilst others have done their collective best to change this nation into a nation of Komrades.
13 posted on 11/29/2004 7:40:31 AM PST by Puckster
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To: pissant
John Adams and [George] Washington were devout Christians

John Adams was a Unitarian and couldn't be called a Christian. JQA definitely was. George Washington--no doubt about his beliefs, they are too well documented, including his personal prayers.

I think it is best and wisest to say that we are a Judeo-Christian Society. I would agree to that description.

15 posted on 11/29/2004 7:40:49 AM PST by WalterSkinner
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To: pissant
John Adams and George Washington were devout Christians.

You're right. In fact, I remember reading a story about Washington where he forbade his troops to swear. He reasoned that "God would not look favorably upon our cause if we are not tempered in our speech," or words to that effect.

16 posted on 11/29/2004 7:42:23 AM PST by Uncle Vlad
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Why is it that outsiders try and figure Americans out.....but they never get it right?

Foreigners are obsessed with America, they need to seek help to get over this.

We, Americans, don't give a rats- a$$ about what their opinions of us are. Yet they cannot let go of their obsession.

31 posted on 11/29/2004 8:08:00 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pissant
I know a bit about Washington and "devout believer" is simply untrue. He never went for communion as did Martha. Although a churchgoing man, there were many things more important to him than the practice of religion.

He was a Deist-type and belived that "Divine Providence" had watched over him so he could lead and found this nation. So, certainly he was a believer in a Divine Being, but "devout believer" I don't think so.

65 posted on 11/29/2004 9:25:02 AM PST by Pharmboy (Listen...you can still hear the old media sobbing.)
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To: pissant
Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin saw flaws in the main Christain denominations of their day, but both professed belief in Christ as the true Son of God.

No - that's certainly not the case for Jefferson.

73 posted on 11/29/2004 10:11:03 AM PST by gdani
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