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What makes the US a Christian nation
Asia Times ^ | 30 november 2004 | Spengler

Posted on 11/29/2004 7:24:42 AM PST by Pitiricus

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To: gdani

I don't know about the virgin birth, but he did believe in Christ's divinity.


161 posted on 11/29/2004 3:05:35 PM PST by pissant
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To: AppyPappy

No more difficult than in the world Christ inhabited, where slavery was commonplace.


162 posted on 11/29/2004 3:20:23 PM PST by pissant
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To: pissant

Yes but Christ did not endorse it. He simply recognized it existed.


163 posted on 11/29/2004 5:02:00 PM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: julymoon
"Compassionate" conservative is a codeword for pro infanticide?

Are you a troll?

164 posted on 11/29/2004 6:19:55 PM PST by Protagoras (People who have abortions are murderers)
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To: julymoon
though I've been posting here for awhile already.

11/4/2004,,,is not "awhile".

Welcome if you are a real conservative.

And, unwelcome if you are some "big tent" conservative, which is to say, no conservative. Big tents have lots of clowns.

If you read the profile page of the vile slob who posted this thread, and find yourself there, you aren't a conservative at all. In which case, go away.

Abortion is murder. Anti Christianity is not conservative.

165 posted on 11/29/2004 6:26:10 PM PST by Protagoras (People who have abortions are murderers)
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To: Pitiricus
What is too bizarre? Because in my views snake-handling and speaking in tongues IS bizarre but is still condoned...

How about baby brain sucking? Scalpel through the neck? Vacuumed remains from the womb? Is that too bizarre? But still condoned?

166 posted on 11/29/2004 7:46:26 PM PST by Protagoras (People who have abortions are murderers)
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To: Protagoras

I believe YOU are the troll... The RCC minion trying to impose his views on others...

This passed with the Inquisition, so you can go to wherever place you want, but women will have abortions in spite of your little fairy tales ...


167 posted on 11/29/2004 8:13:11 PM PST by Pitiricus
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To: Pitiricus

I don't know what you are referring to, RCC, but it's irrelevant. You are still the murderer of your own child. How did you do it? Did you suck your babies little brains out? Did you stab your child in the neck til your child died? Did you twist his little innocent body into pretzels and then dismember him? Do you think your baby will forgive you at your judgement?


168 posted on 11/29/2004 8:37:51 PM PST by Protagoras (People who have abortions are murderers)
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To: Pitiricus

What was your screen name before you changed it? Do you have the courage to answer? Or are you just brave enough to dismember your innocent children?


169 posted on 11/29/2004 8:39:10 PM PST by Protagoras (People who have abortions are murderers)
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To: Pitiricus
Have you told your surviving child that you ALLOWED him to live? But you didn't feel like allowing his brother to live, so you killed him? Have you told him that at any moment you could change your mind and murder him too? I mean, if it's inconvenient for you to have him around anymore?
What will he say when you tell him? You will tell him won't you? I mean, it's OK to kill them if you feel like it, so you won't have any problem telling him will you?
170 posted on 11/29/2004 8:42:55 PM PST by Protagoras (People who have abortions are murderers)
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To: Protagoras; All

Wow! You really know how to make a person feel welcome at FR. Maybe I haven't been posting as long as you have, but I wonder how many people are even interested in listening to your opinion about anything, if this is your usual M.O. Anyone ever teach you the powers of persuasion: I'll clue you in: You Ain't Got Them. I haven't encountered anyone here like you yet on F.R. You take cranky to new heights. You seem to be a fairly mean-spirited person, but maybe you just got a bad bowl of Cheerios this morning. I can get fairly cranky right back, which is what you seem to want, but to tell you the truth I don't wish to do.

However, I will deign to ask, what do you mean by the question posed to me in post #164: "Are you a troll?" A troll for what, trolling for what? Please define. If you mean trolling for cranky SOBs, looks like I'm a winner!

Secondly, I don't like the way you define "Compassionate Conservative." Our President coined the term, I use it, and you're welcome to take exception with it, but that won't stop those of us who choose it, including George W. Bush! Do you have a problem with W.? Tell us all about it, brother.

Get off MY back, YOUR high horse, and GOD's throne. I don't think anyone can condone the vile things you've said to the poster here. I don't know that poster's history, nor do I know that poster, but I don't think anyone deserves the hideous things you said. So, how about this? Anyone as angry as you must be made about something in his past. What's your beef? Didn't Momma want you? Did she make a mistake or were you a big accident after a boozy weekend?

How do you feel now? It's one thing to have an opinion, another to be vile. And now I guess we can be enemies instead of really listening to one another. Do you like it?


171 posted on 11/30/2004 1:58:44 PM PST by julymoon (What's Your Problem?)
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To: Protagoras
You seem to feel that you have superior knowledge regarding life and death decisions. Please tell me how you would judge the decision of a young Lieutenant who had to choose which of his critically wounded men he would put in the last spot on the only available medevac helicopter - which man would he give a chance to live and which men would he condemn to almost certain death.

I'll save you some time. Unless you have actually been in that situation, you have no business judging that Lieutenant's life and death decision.

Likewise, unless you have become pregnant in a situation where your life would be threatened by giving birth, you have no business judging that extremely difficult and personal decision. Just as in the example above, a very hard value judgment has to be made by the appropriate person and you are not that person.

Your condemnation of abortion decisions seems to be absolute with no exceptions. You seem to think you are more qualified to make decisions about other people's lives than they are. You may be correct about most abortions but you are incorrect about your authority to judge and make those decisions for other people. If you want to help people make the correct decision, you don't take away their freedom and responsibility to make that decision. You try to give them loving advice not superior condemnation.

172 posted on 11/30/2004 3:12:28 PM PST by Semper
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Semper, Thank you. You said it all.


173 posted on 11/30/2004 4:48:24 PM PST by julymoon (A Sensible Voice)
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To: julymoon
Murder is vile. Anyone who supports is vile. Anyone who comes here from a liberal site to disrupt this one by trying to turn this into a debating society to present liberal dogma is vile. If you are any of those things, you are vile.

You don't like my posting style or ideas? I don't care.

Welcome to FreeRepublic, unless you are a liberal troll, then go to hell.

174 posted on 12/01/2004 7:32:41 AM PST by Protagoras (People who have abortions are guilty of infanticide.)
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To: Semper
90% of your post is irrelevant nonsense.

Once you get to abortion, which is what I addressed, it is at least on topic.

The poster I addressed advocates abortion on demand. Not the extremely rare situations you present. She has had an abortion as a "convenience". It was decidedly inconvenient for the child who was murdered. My vitriolic posts are aimed directly at her and people like her.

Abortion is murder. There is no such thing as a freedom to murder.

175 posted on 12/01/2004 7:45:38 AM PST by Protagoras (People who have abortions are guilty of infanticide.)
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Now, come on....First of all, you're not making complete sense. First of all, you say "Anyone who comes here from a liberal site to disrupt this one by trying to turn this into a debating society to present liberal dogma is vile. If you are any of those things, you are vile." Hmmm...I guess I'm guilty before proven innocent. Oh, okay, you're right. I'm really Ralph Nader, and I'm spending my post-election free time hanging out here!

You know, actually, anytime you gather more than one human being under a roof, even two Conservatives, there's bound to be eventual debate. You might be surprised to learn that you and I probably agree about certain things; but that doesn't mean we'll agree about everything.

Thirdly, you say: "Murder is vile. Anyone who supports is vile." Okay, we're currently at war. Are you supporting that war? If so, are you vile? Like it or not, war includes murder, no matter how necessary the war is. Any Marine will tell you that. You can call it "collateral damage," but some would call it murder. I'm not arguing against the war here, by the way, but I AM trying to make a point. As "Semper" said, these are complex issues, very complex.

Finally, you say: "Welcome to FreeRepublic, unless you are a liberal troll, then go to hell." What does that mean, exactly? I still don't get the trolling part.

I actually feel badly now about my response to you the other day, but I thought you should have a taste of your own medicine. You seemed to want a ranklefest, so I gave it to you, but that's not my usual nature. I guess if that's your style, okay, good, you don't have to care. But I can almost guarantee that no one will listen if you express yourself so. Passion is good; mean vitriole, no.

And welcome folks to FR without the rant. Did you read my post about "Compassionate Conservatism"? Is there only one kind of Conservative: YOU?


176 posted on 12/01/2004 11:47:46 AM PST by julymoon (Give me a break...)
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To: julymoon
Like it or not, war includes murder, no matter how necessary the war is. Any Marine will tell you that.

Nonsense. War is war. Murder is murder. If you don't know the difference it's probably too late, but ya never know.

You might be surprised to learn that you and I probably agree about certain things; but that doesn't mean we'll agree about everything.

We don't have to agree on anything much less everything. But if you support abortion, I'll treat you just like I treat that vile slime who brags about killing her kid and advocates it for others.

I still don't get the trolling part.

You're new. You'll get it if you last long enough.

But I can almost guarantee that no one will listen if you express yourself so.

Thanks for the unsolicited advice.

Did you read my post about "Compassionate Conservatism"? Is there only one kind of Conservative: YOU?

It's nonsense. It's like saying "liberal conservative". A BS term politicians use to attempt to play both sides in order to get votes.

BTW, I'm not what you, or most people, would call a conservative.

177 posted on 12/01/2004 12:15:58 PM PST by Protagoras (People who have abortions are guilty of infanticide.)
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