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Senate GOP set to go 'nuclear' over judges
Cox news service via the Times Argus ^ | 11/28/04 | Chuck Lindell

Posted on 11/28/2004 2:36:14 PM PST by NeoCaveman

Senate Republicans, boldly confident after their Nov. 2 electoral success, are preparing to end months of frustrating delays over President Bush's judicial picks by hitting Democrats with Republican's ultimate legislative weapon.

But the Republican threat to neuter long-cherished filibuster rules by steamrolling Democrats is risky — so potentially destructive that Capitol Hill calls it the "nuclear option." Democratic retaliation would be swift and long-lasting, raising the prospect of escalating clashes in a body that prides itself on gentility and cool judgment.

Even so, Republican leaders are signaling their intent to go nuclear in word and deed.

"We're going to use every tool we possibly can," said Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., who also unveiled a kinder, gentler phrase for the potential rules change: the "constitutional option."

"Republicans are loaded for bear, spoiling for a confrontation with Senate Democrats on judicial appointments," said Norm Ornstein, an expert on Congress for the conservative-leaning American Enterprise Institute. "For a lot of conservatives, this has really become an issue that leaves them passionate."

(Excerpt) Read more at timesargus.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: dems; filibuster; judges; judicialnominees; nuclearoption; nukular; obstructionist; scotus; zotthedems
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Lots of interesting stuff here. Including the possibility that Specter is on board for this. I bet that was the quid pro quo for the chairmanship.

But I'm not breaking out the champagne quite yet

1 posted on 11/28/2004 2:36:16 PM PST by NeoCaveman
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To: dubyaismypresident

Thermonuclear would be better.


2 posted on 11/28/2004 2:37:45 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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To: Paleo Conservative
We already have the DUmmies crying.
3 posted on 11/28/2004 2:38:37 PM PST by NeoCaveman ("I expressed myself rather forcefully, felt better after I had done it," -- VP Cheney)
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To: dubyaismypresident

DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


4 posted on 11/28/2004 2:38:39 PM PST by OwnershipSociety
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To: dubyaismypresident

I'll celebrate this in the past tense only. I'll believe it when Brit smacks Juan in the face with it.


5 posted on 11/28/2004 2:40:56 PM PST by Petronski (One night in Bangkok makes a hard man humble, not much between despair and ecstasy.)
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To: TonyRo76

Mitch McConnell said it takes 67 votes to change a rule on Cal Thomas last night.


7 posted on 11/28/2004 2:45:27 PM PST by Dave Burns
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To: dubyaismypresident

I think you might be on to something. Snarlin' Arlen is all smiles lately, and that means that even for a RINO like him, he knows which side his bread is buttered on. He could certainly go across the aisle ala 'Jumpin Jerk Jeffords', but that isn't how he wants to end his political career.

Arlen wants a nice write up in the history books and if he has to turn right after many decades of leaning left, he'll do it. Politics makes strange bedfellows, as the saying goes, and Arlen is as strange as they come.

But he is a shrewd politician, and I think he would be on board for putting an end to filibustering shenanigans by the 'Rats, because the more the MINORITY party in the Senate tries to screw around with judicial nominations, the more it reflects badly on Specter, because he doesn't want ANYBODY to ever mutter something like "even Orin Hatch ran a better committee than Specter", so when it comes time to nuke the Senate 'Rats, I predict Senator Specter will be in the bombardier's bubble, lining up the targets, and calling out "BOMB'S AWAY!"...

Does my heart good to picture that. Imagine. Arlen Specter coming to his senses even at this late date.

Heh.


8 posted on 11/28/2004 2:45:57 PM PST by Mad Mammoth
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To: dubyaismypresident

I'd still love to see the letter they made Specter sign.....


9 posted on 11/28/2004 2:46:06 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: dubyaismypresident

Yada, yada, yada... I believe it when I see it. Talk is cheap.


10 posted on 11/28/2004 2:46:13 PM PST by Babsig (I regret that my first ever vote was for Specter for Senator in 1986.)
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To: dubyaismypresident
We already have the DUmmies crying.

And they don't understand the difference between a rule and the Constitution.

11 posted on 11/28/2004 2:47:22 PM PST by AndrewC (New Senate rule -- Must vote on all Presidential appointments period certain.)
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To: OwnershipSociety
This is what I voted for!

Pack the court, pack the court,

Come on everybody, repeat after me and sing along

Pack the court, pack the court here we go

Pack the court

repeat until tired or bored /rant

12 posted on 11/28/2004 2:48:52 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (I got a fever, and the only prescription is MORE COWBELLS!)
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To: TonyRo76
Well it's about freakin' time! Enough of this “gentility” hoo-haw...if the DemocratsMarxists on Capitol Hill want a gang-fight, let's give it to them, and make 'em sorry they asked!

Exactly. The Dems already declared war.

13 posted on 11/28/2004 2:49:34 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: dubyaismypresident

14 posted on 11/28/2004 2:49:50 PM PST by budman_2001
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To: K4Harty

Launch them suckers! : )


15 posted on 11/28/2004 2:50:21 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel ("Nature abhors a moron."-H.L. Mencken)
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To: dubyaismypresident
You know, I'm not scared about Democrat "retaliation." First of all, they'd be irrelevant. Secondly, the GOP never filibustered judicial nominations, so if the Rats regain the Senate and Presidency, so what if they used the nuclear option? They'd never have to use it in the first place.

The press is whining for the Rats, so it must mean we're getting somewhere.

16 posted on 11/28/2004 2:51:01 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: dubyaismypresident

Senate GOP set to go 'nuclear' over judges.........

It's about time. Too bad tiny Tom won't be there to have his snout rubbed in the dirt.


17 posted on 11/28/2004 2:51:24 PM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations)
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"We're going to use every tool we possibly can," said Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., who also unveiled a kinder, gentler phrase for the potential rules change: the "constitutional option."

If they use every tool they possibly can, President Bush needs to do some appointments during the Congressional Break period.

Clinton set the precedent for that. We need to do it too to save time and energy.

"Constitutional option" ...what the heck is that? Oh yea, to Democrats using the Constitution is just an option. Come on Frist, lead with the Constitution...

Four years isn't that long, we need to expedite lots of things.

18 posted on 11/28/2004 2:53:14 PM PST by Syncro
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To: Dog Gone
The press is whining for the Rats, so it must mean we're getting somewhere.

Music to my ears is a whining RAT. boo hoo hoo...conservative judges...boo hoo hoo...

19 posted on 11/28/2004 2:53:14 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (I got a fever, and the only prescription is MORE COWBELLS!)
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To: dubyaismypresident

Yeah, it's call winning. NOTE to Dimocrats: we won, we govern, get use to it.


20 posted on 11/28/2004 2:55:00 PM PST by Lurking in Kansas (;&ôÀžUñj/ÈëžÕ “ ’· (If you have to ask, you won't understand))
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