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La Raza WELCOMES NOMINATION OF GONZALES TO SERVE AS ATTORNEY GENERAL
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Posted on 11/28/2004 10:40:49 AM PST by hsmomx3

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To: Luis Gonzalez
MALDEF's core mission is to protect and promote the civil rights for the over 40 million Latinos living in the United States.

So, if a person isn't a Latino, then MALDEF wants nothing to do with them. Sounds kind of racist to me.

61 posted on 11/28/2004 12:31:48 PM PST by usadave
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Gads...This thread has gone totally nuts...I've got to go feed my cats. I no longer know who the friendlies are and the enemy is on this thread. Hasta mañana guys. Adios from Panama.


62 posted on 11/28/2004 12:33:43 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: usadave

Yes it is.


63 posted on 11/28/2004 12:35:50 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
No this is a smear tactic being used against a nominee. Has ANYONE any proof that this man approves of La Raca? Or supports it's agenda? Any one? If not then those bashing this guy should be ashamed.

I know very little about him but I an spot a race based smear tactic when I see one.

64 posted on 11/28/2004 12:36:51 PM PST by jpsb
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To: Luis Gonzalez

see I side with the kool-aid drinkers every now and then.


65 posted on 11/28/2004 12:38:36 PM PST by jpsb
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To: bayourod

I, for one, want nothing to do with any illegals, no matter where they are from. I also want nothing to do with "legals" (unless they are on visas or other temporary licenses)whose allegiance is to their mother country, and not to America. My biggest gripe is against American citizens, naturalized or native born, whose allegiance is to another country. There are an awful lot of "Mexican- Americans" whose allegiance is to Mexico, not to America. Because they make up the largest number of such folks, my primary focus is on them. I know the LaRaza folks and MEChA, and the reconquista and Aztlan crazies. They are militant anti-Americans, and should be deported or thrown in jail. If they choose to fight, then we will respond in kind. Sorry, but that's the way it is. I love America, and do not want to see it destroyed by a bunch of third-world nutcases.


66 posted on 11/28/2004 12:40:57 PM PST by ought-six
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
I really don't care what La Raza says or thinks.

I do, only because if they are for something, I tend to be against it.

67 posted on 11/28/2004 12:41:26 PM PST by lancer (If you are not with us, you are against us!)
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To: Prime Choice

"That's all the 'La Raza' cretins are; just a Mexican version of the Klan."

That's a fact.


68 posted on 11/28/2004 12:42:01 PM PST by ought-six
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To: ought-six

I completely agree. I know very little about Gonzales, do you think he is an anti-American loyal to Mexico? And if so why?


69 posted on 11/28/2004 12:44:36 PM PST by jpsb
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To: lancer

I was going to leave this thread, but I had to have just one last "peek." Thank you for making me laugh. I agree with you 100%. I’m just not guided by their whines (or approvals). Best wishes to you, and thank you.


70 posted on 11/28/2004 12:50:41 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
"Alberto Gonzales is an American, born in America. How can he be Mexican?"

I have nothing against Gonzales, except his pro-abortion stand. If he follows the U.S. Constitution he's okay by me (he's light years better than Janet Reno, who was a Marxist troglodyte). I do have a problem with Americans of Mexican ancestry who consider themselves Mexicans and not Americans. Just like I don't care for Americans of German ancestry who see themselves as Germans, not Americans, etc. As far as I'm concerned, if someone has to hyphenate their nationality, such as calling themselves Mexican-Americans, African-Americans, Italian-Americans, etc., they are not true Americans, because they place "qualifiers" on their nationality. As far as I know, Gonzalez sees himself as an American. If he trumpets that he is a "Mexican-American" then I will have a problem with him.
71 posted on 11/28/2004 12:51:34 PM PST by ought-six ("Give me liberty, or give me death!")
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To: ought-six
The NCLR is not part of the radical extremist movement s within the Mexican immigrant community, so while some of their stances are leftists, they do not in fact advocate illegal immigration.

Before we go any further, let's define the word immigrant...

Here's my definition, there are immigrants, and there are illegal aliens, but there is no such thing as an illegal immigrant because the word immigrant in and of itself implies legal entry.

Sometime in the past, Alberto Gonzales belonged to the NCLR, he appears not to be a member any longer.

72 posted on 11/28/2004 12:53:51 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

"Did you disapprove of Ronald Reagan, a former Democrat, as a choice for GOP candidate?"

Uh, Luis, I agree with much of what you have said on this post. However, when Reagan bolted from the Dims the Dims had not yet become the intolerant bigots that they are today. La Raza has ALWAYS been intolerant and bigoted and racist.


73 posted on 11/28/2004 12:57:44 PM PST by ought-six ("Give me liberty, or give me death!")
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To: ought-six
"I have nothing against Gonzales, except his pro-abortion stand."

His pro-abortion stand?

No such thing.

He handed down a strict constructionist judgement on a Texas law which allows for a judicial bypass of the parental notification requirement.

If you can find any decisions supporting abortion other than Jane Doe 5 by Gonzales, please link me to them.

"I do have a problem with Americans of Mexican ancestry who consider themselves Mexicans and not Americans."

Others are calling him Mexican, he's not.

74 posted on 11/28/2004 1:00:22 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: jpsb

Alberto spent a lot of his formative years just north of you in the Humble area...... Interesting read at the following:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/11/15/gonzales.tm/


75 posted on 11/28/2004 1:01:19 PM PST by deport (I've done a lot things.... seen a lot of things..... Most of which I don't remember.)
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To: jpsb

"I completely agree. I know very little about Gonzales, do you think he is an anti-American loyal to Mexico? And if so why?"

I have neither heard nor read anything directly attributed to Mr. Gonzales that would make me question his loyalty to America. As far as I know right now, he is a loyal American, and will probably make a pretty good A.G.


76 posted on 11/28/2004 1:01:49 PM PST by ought-six ("Give me liberty, or give me death!")
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To: ought-six
Please read through the NCLR site, while I disagree with a lot of their stated goals, they are far from the extremism of M.E.Ch.A and similar organizations.

My point is that people change, or maybe a better word is evolve, and what one used to be is not nearly as important as what one is.

77 posted on 11/28/2004 1:04:09 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: jpsb
"...see I side with the kool-aid drinkers every now and then..."

Funny, I was just thinking the same thing.

78 posted on 11/28/2004 1:06:06 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

I am the son of a legal immigrant. My mother came to this country when she was 21. She studied for her citizenship and became an American citizen. She was (and still is, at the tender age of 80) a loyal American, both of whose sons served America in the Vietnam War. My father served America in WWII and was a colonel in the U.S. Air Force Reserve until he retired from that position. If America found itself in a war with her country of birth, she would hope her relatives still there could get out, but then she wouldn't have a second thought about destroying the place.

Obviously, in a purely legal sense, immigrant does assume legality and legitamcy. However, the word has been abused for so long by ALL parties to the issue that it's almost become meaningless today. Hence, I try to limit my definitions to "legals" and "illegals". Does that make any sense?


79 posted on 11/28/2004 1:09:04 PM PST by ought-six ("Give me liberty, or give me death!")
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To: Luis Gonzalez

"Please read through the NCLR site, while I disagree with a lot of their stated goals, they are far from the extremism of M.E.Ch.A and similar organizations."

Sorry, but I grew up in Southern California. I saw the La Raza minions first-hand. They were ALWAYS (well, at least since 1951 when I was born) bigoted racists. I go by what they do rather than what they say, because history has shown that their words are meaningless. Hey, the "moderate muslims" are the same way: They say they want to be friends with the rest of the world, but then they put a multitude of qualifiers and countless conditions on the proclamation that virtually nullifies their "attempts" at moderation.


80 posted on 11/28/2004 1:15:49 PM PST by ought-six ("Give me liberty, or give me death!")
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