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OHIO Provisional Vote Count Update
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| 11/27/2004
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Posted on 11/27/2004 8:09:38 PM PST by Tennessean4Bush
Summary of provisional ballots count - UPDATED 11/27/04
Note: 65 of 88 counties have reported.
Current % of provisionals being counted: 77%
Current "additional" vote count:
Bush +36,050
Kerry +32,490
Please note, some of the largest counties have still not reported.
Adams Co:
- According to elections officials, 192 provisional ballots were okayed out of 258 cast. The results are Bush +173, Kerry +91
Allen Co:
- Allen County has the regions most provisional ballots, more than 1,300, and wont certify its ballot until Dec. 1, the state-set deadline to do so.
Ashland Co:
- According to elections officials, 522 provisional ballots were okayed out of 631 cast. The results are Bush +345, Kerry +210
Ashtabula Co:
- "Voters with questionable addresses helped bring Ashtabula Countys provisional ballot count to an early halt Wednesday morning, Board of Election directors said. Acting on the advice of attorneys, including County Prosecutor Thomas Sartini, the board postponed the count to Nov. 29, said Richard Hornstein, director[. . . ]
At issue are questions surrounding the addresses of some people who voted with a provisional ballot. [. . .]
Upon receiving a provisional ballot, which contains the address of the voter, the election board sends a post card to the address to double-check residency. Since the election, more than 20 of the boards post cards have been returned as undeliverable, Hornstein said. The board wants to know why the voters arent receiving mail at the addresses they put on their provisional ballots. Weve got to verify (residency), said Art Vensel, election board deputy director.[. . .]
Originally, officials said 1,142 provisional ballots were received at the board office. Employees will recommend the board disallow 204 of those ballots for a lack of voter registration, vote signature or incorrect precinct, Hornstein said.
Brobst said he retain private counsel from Columbus to make sure every vote is counted. (Star Beacon)
Auglaize Co:
- According to elections officials, 573 provisional ballots were okayed out of 650 cast. The results are Bush +575, Kerry +171
Belmont Co:
- According to elections officials, 617 provisional ballots were okayed out of 1,067 cast. The results are Bush +314, Kerry +318
Brown Co:
- Comparing information posted 11/16/04 at the Brown Co. Board of Elections and the Ohio SOS website, the provisionals/late absentee changes are Bush +167, Kerry +82. According to elections officials, 247 provisional ballots were okayed out of 326 cast.
Butler Co:
- On 11/16/04, Butler County started its review of 6,431 provisional ballots and 33 "overseas" absentee ballots. (Journal-News, 11/17/04)
- According to elections officials, 4,760 provisional ballots were okayed out of 6,434 cast. The results are Bush +3,131, Kerry +2,049
- Belmont County had an alarmingly high rejection rate - 42% - by far, the highest of all of the reported counties and nearly twice the average of other counties. The next closest county is apparently Lorain County with a rejection rate of 32%. The average of reported counties is a 22% rejection rate.
This ultra-high rejection rate deserves more investigation if for no other reason than it being such an an exception to the norm.
Carroll Co:
- According to elections officials, 240 provisional ballots were okayed out of 301 cast. The results are Bush +164, Kerry +108
Champaign Co:
- "The Champaign County Board of Elections said 514 provisional ballots were counted. . .
There were 41 provisional ballots not counted. . . " (Springfield News-Sun). Election officials report that the results were Bush +286, Kerry +215.
Clark Co:
- Election officials reported that out of 1564 provisional, 405 were rejected. This number, however, conflicts with 1279 provisionals reported at the SOS website. The results are Bush +481, Kerry +679.
Clinton Co:
- Comparing information posted 11/16/04 at the Clinton Co. Board of Elections to the Ohio SOS website, the provisionals/late absentee changes are Bush +313, Kerry +173. According to elections officials, 344 provisional ballots were okayed out of 375 cast.
Coshocton Co:
- According to elections officials, 254 out of 269 provisional ballots were accepted. The results are Bush +156, Kerry + 115
Crawford Co:
- According to elections officials, 380 out of 425 provisional ballots were accepted. The results are Bush + 218, Kerry + 147
Cuyahoga Co:
- "So far, about two-thirds of those votes have been deemed legitimate, but those numbers could change." (Plain Dealer)
- "Cuyahoga County, where Cleveland is located, has processed 40 percent, or 9,719 votes, of its 24,788 provisional ballots and rejected a third, according to a board tally. Most are being rejected because the voters were not registered." (AP)
- The Plain Dealer reported 11/23 that approximately 1/3 of the provisional ballots are being rejected.
Defiance Co:
- According to elections officials, 542 provisional ballots were okayed out of 672 cast. The results are Bush +385, Kerry +292
Delaware Co:
- According to elections officials, 1,463 out of 1,879 provisional ballots were accepted. The results are Bush +905, Kerry + 551
Erie Co:
- According to elections officials, 838 provisional ballots were okayed out of 972 cast. The results are Bush +583, Kerry +756
Fairfield Co:
- According to elections officials, 1,117 provisional ballots were okayed out of 1,542 cast. The results are Bush +640, Kerry +453
Fayette Co:
- According to elections officials, 249 provisional ballots were okayed out of 295 cast. The results are Bush +154, Kerry +90
Fulton Co:
- According to elections officials, 324 provisional ballots were okayed out of 388 cast. The results are Bush +196, Kerry +126
Gallia Co:
- According to elections officials, 376 provisional ballots were okayed out of 452 cast. The results are Bush +257, Kerry +176
Geauga Co:
- ". . . elections officials determined Tuesday that 77 of the 669 provisional ballots were not valid." (Plain Dealer, 11/17/04)
- According to elections officials, 597 provisional ballots were okayed out of 669 cast. The results are Bush +401, Kerry +269
Greene Co:
- According to elections officials, 1,766 out of 2,127 provisional ballots were accepted. The results are Bush +1,536, Kerry + 1,181
Guernsey Co:
- According to elections officials, 511 provisional ballots were okayed out of 558 cast. The results are Bush +866, Kerry +696
Hamilton Co:
- "Hamilton County has sorted through almost 13,000 of its [13,976] provisional ballots, Williams said. He hasn't totaled those rejected but said he expects 20 percent to 30 percent to ultimately be found invalid.
The elections staff expects to finish checking provisional ballots by Friday. Starting Monday, bipartisan teams will inspect each ballot for "pregnant'' and "hanging chads'' as well as torn ballots and other irregularities. Tuesday evening or Wednesday, the regular and provisional ballots will be fed through the punch-card-counting machine for the official count. The elections board will meet after Thanksgiving weekend to officially certify the ballot." (Enquirer, 11/17/04)
- Based on stories in the Enquirer and Post, Hamilton County unofficially rejected about 3,000 of its 13,976 provisional ballots. The results are reportedly to be Bush +6,765, Kerry +8,543
Hancock Co:
- "Elections workers received 848 provisional ballots - formerly called 'walk-in ballots' - but only officially counted 809, as 39 provisional voters who claimed to be registered were not . . . President Bush received a total of 756 more votes - both provisional and corrected 'overvotes' - pushing his vote total in Hancock County to 25,101 votes. Kerry received 413 more . . ." (Findlay Courier)
Harrison Co:
- According to elections officials, 86 provisional ballots were okayed out of 89 cast. However, elections officials also say they had a problem with their Nov. 2 tally with an overcount of absentee ballots in at least one precinct. We know of no newspaper coverage of this problem. Therefore, even with the addition of the provisional ballots, Harrison County's numbers are less than its Nov. 2 numbers. The results are Bush -45, Kerry -45
Henry Co:
- According to elections officials, 213 provisional ballots were okayed out of 249 cast. The results are Bush +131, Kerry +83
Highland Co:
- According to elections officials, 404 provisional ballots were okayed out of 466 cast. The results are Bush +341, Kerry +182
Hocking Co:
- According to elections officials, 216 provisional ballots were okayed out of 248 cast. The results are Bush +124, Kerry +108
Holmes Co:
- According to elections officials, 165 provisional ballots were okayed out of 173 cast. The results are Bush +167, Kerry +73
Huron Co:
- According to elections officials, 556 provisional ballots were okayed out of 670 cast. The results are Bush +281, Kerry +229
Jackson Co:
- According to elections officials, 397 provisional ballots were okayed out of 447 cast. The results are Bush +203, Kerry +180
Jefferson Co:
- According to elections officials, 618 provisional ballots were okayed out of 650 cast. The results are Bush +297, Kerry 345
Knox Co:
- According to elections officials, information on how many provisional ballots were counted won't be available until 11/29 due to the BOE director's absence. The results, however, after counting the provisionals are Bush +404, Kerry +215
Lake Co:
- According to elections officials, 1,813 provisional ballots were okayed out of 2,014 cast. The results are Bush +1578, Kerry +1,578. Elections officials were asked about the totals changing by the same amount for each candidate, but they stood by those numbers.
Lawrence Co:
- According to elections officials, 517 provisional ballots were okayed out of 601 cast. The results are Bush +279, Kerry 237
Licking Co:
- According to elections officials, 1.321 provisional ballots were okayed out of 1,541 cast. The results are Bush +922, Kerry +701
Logan Co:
- According to elections officials, 575 provisional ballots were okayed out of 651 cast. The results are Bush +387, Kerry +181
Lorain Co:
- The Elyria Chronicle Telegram on 11/23 reported that, "About 1,264 of the 4,000 provisional and absentee ballots from the Nov. 2 election were rejected by the Lorain County Board of Elections on Monday. " Actually, the SOS website reports that Lorain County had 4,134 provisional ballots. That means the county had a fairly high rejection rate - 68%.
The reasons for rejecting the provisionals suggest further investigation should be conducted. For example, the story reports:
Of the 1,264 ballots rejected, 702 provisional ballots were thrown out for improper registration. That number also included those voters who had not cast a ballot since the 1992 presidential election.
The board also accepted a number of questionable absentee ballots, such as those in which voters made simple errors. Two absentee voters were provided military envelopes in error, for instance, while another voter made his selections on the voting booklet rather than the ballot.
Jacobcik said that a Democrat-Republican team would evaluate cases in which the board thought voter intent could be determined.
Other significant provisional and absentee ballots that the board rejected included:
160 voted in the wrong precinct
14 did not provide a new address
190 did not provide an old address
11 had cards returned by the post office
93 failed to sign ID envelopes
8 did not return ID cards
16 returned ballot cards without stubs
Clearly, a major portion of the referenced "702" is a little mysterious. Although it is stated that some of these are ballots cast by "inactive voters", that would be an extraordinarily high percentage. In nearly all other counties, the largest percentage of rejected provisionals is due to ballots cast in the wrong precinct. Here, however, these amount to 160 and are apparently not part of the 702. Further, some of the reasons for rejection seem flimsy and other counties, e.g., Madison, have gone to special lengths to county every possible provisional ballot. If nothing else, this again raises the issue of the lack of specific, uniform and enforceable guidelines for the county BOEs to use to evaluate the provisionals.
Lucas Co:
- "Of the 6,435 provisional ballots cast in Lucas County on Election Day, less than half - 3,124 - have been determined by elections officials to be valid." (Toledo Blade)
Madison Co:
- Although elections officials have posted updated elections numbers, there still remains some problems with the count including at least one case where an elderly couple voted twice.
- According to elections officials, 334 provisional ballots were okayed out of 392 cast. The results are Bush +189, Kerry +120
Mahoning Co:
- According to elections officials, 2,351 provisional ballots were okayed out of an estimated 2,700 cast. The results are Bush +744, Kerry +1,569
Meigs Co:
- According to elections officials, 225 out of 243 provisional ballots were accepted. The results are Bush +117, Kerry + 103
Mercer Co:
- According to elections officials, 852 provisional ballots were okayed out of 931 cast. The results are Bush +624, Kerry +191
Montgomery Co:
- "In Montgomery County, 6,125 of the 8,000 provisional ballots processed so far are valid. Of the 1,875 invalid ballots, more than 1,000 were rejected because the people were not registered and 685 were rejected because voters went to the wrong precinct, according to the board. The board still has to count 1,227 ballots." (AP)
- According to elections officials, 7,375 out of 9,257 provisional ballots were accepted. The results are Bush +3,645, Kerry + 4,715
Monroe Co:
- According to elections officials, 130 provisional ballots were okayed out of 132 cast. The results are Bush +54, Kerry +77
Morgan Co:
- According to elections officials, 130 provisional ballots were okayed out of 169 cast. The results are Bush +62, Kerry +63
Morrow Co:
- According to elections officials, 284 provisional ballots were okayed out of 309 cast. The results are Bush +162, Kerry +124
Muskingum Co:
- According to elections officials, 874 provisional ballots were okayed out of 874 cast. The results are Bush +350, Kerry +371
Noble Co:
- According to elections officials, all of Noble Co.'s provisionals were counted Nov. 2 so there is no change to their numbers. Of the 75 provisionals in the county, 73 were deemed okay for voting.
Ottowa Co:
- According to elections officials, 413 provisional ballots were okayed out of 472 cast. The results are Bush +255, Kerry +199
Paulding Co:
- According to elections officials, 204 provisional ballots were okayed out of 234 cast. The results are Bush +131, Kerry +66
Perry Co:
- According to elections officials, there were problems with the initial count reported to t he SOS office was in error because one precinct was counted twice. Officials say they later noticed that the precinct had a 127% turnout. So, even though the BOE counted 356 out of 431 provisional ballots, the results are only Bush +88, Kerry +52
- The provisional ballot outcome deserves some further investigation given the other problems with this county's count. While Kerry gained 48% of the vote in the regular election, he only gained 37% of the provisional ballots. This 11% difference is by far the greatest shift and, although not impossible, it is highly improbable.
Pickaway Co:
Preble Co:
Putnam Co:
- In Putnam County, the board has been verifying its 246 provisional ballots, will count them Monday and Tuesday [Nov. 15 & 16] and certify. (Lima News, 11/16/04
- According to elections officials, 218 provisional ballots were okayed out of 246 cast. The results are Bush +174, Kerry +44
Richland Co:
- "Tuesday, the board tallied 1,212 validated provisional ballots. On election day, 1,357 were cast, but 145 were ruled invalid when they were reviewed by the board last week. Of those, 28 were from voters registered in Richland County but casting votes in the wrong precinct, 92 were not registered in Richland County and 25 were not registered in another county as they claimed. The presidential vote on those provisional ballots reflected almost exactly the percentages of the general vote, with 610 favoring President Bush and 578 going for Sen. John Kerry. (News-Journal, 11/17/04)
Sandusky Co:
- According to elections officials, 541 provisional ballots were okayed out of 627 cast. Sandusky County, however, had a problem with duplicate vote counts such that their Nov. 2 numbers were in excess of the real numbers. After correcting this error and adding the provisional ballots, the final numbers actually decline. The results are Bush -1,629, Kerry -1,256
Scioto Co:
- According to elections officials, 723 provisional ballots were okayed out of 887 cast. The results are Bush +319, Kerry +385
Seneca Co:
- According to elections officials, 435 out of 494 provisional ballots were accepted. The results are Bush +261, Kerry + 188
Shelby Co:
- According to elections officials, 577 provisional ballots were okayed out of 791 cast. The results are Bush +379, Kerry +197
Summit Co:
- "Director Bryan Williams said his staff has found that about 10 percent of the 5,932 provisional ballots in the county are invalid." (Plain Dealer)
- "'It's still safe to say 90 percent or more of the provisionals cast will qualify for counting. Ten percent or less, based on what we're seeing, will be disqualified for one reason or another,' he said" (Beacon Journal)
- "About 1,200 provisional ballots were rejected Tuesday by the Summit County Board of Elections, where much of a morning meeting was devoted to a separate debate about dimples and piercings." (Plain Dealer, 11/17/04)
- Officials from the Summit County Board of Elections say it will be at least another day before they have a final tally of how many provisional ballots cast in the Nov. 2 election can be verified . . . Initial estimates are that about 20 percent -- roughly 1,200 votes -- won't be verified, mainly because they were cast by people who were not registered to vote. (Beacon Journal, 11/18/04)
Tuscarawas Co:
- According to elections officials, 854 provisional ballots were okayed out of 987 cast. The results are Bush +466, Kerry +394
Union Co:
- According to elections officials, 396 provisional ballots were okayed out of 440 cast. The results are Bush +276, Kerry +119
Vinton Co:
- According to elections officials, 97 out of 129 provisional ballots were accepted. The results are Bush +55, Kerry + 39
Warren Co:
- 2,200 (87%) of the 2527 provisional/absentee ballots were counted. County officials said 600 absentee ballots were late in arriving. 271 provisionals were excluded because the voters weren't registered and 56 weren't permitted because they were case in the wrong precinct. (Enquirer)
- Comparing information posted 11/15/04 at the Warren Co. Board of Elections and the Ohio SOS website, the provisionals/late absentee changes are Bush +1,512, Kerry +644
Washington Co:
- According to elections officials, 556 provisional ballots were okayed out of 643 cast. The results are Bush +451, Kerry +338
Wayne Co:
- Comparing information posted 11/23/04 at the Wayne Co. Board of Elections and the Ohio SOS website, the provisionals/late absentee changes are Bush +446, Kerry +331. According to elections officials, 785 provisional ballots were okayed out of 889 cast.
Williams Co:
- According to elections officials, 643 out of 697 provisional ballots were accepted. The results are Bush +407, Kerry + 250
Wyandot Co:
- According to elections officials, 107 out of 138 provisional ballots were accepted. The results are Bush +300, Kerry + 153
Miscellaneous:
- "Of the 11 counties [includes Belmont - see above] that have completed checking ballots, 81 percent, or 4,277 out of 5,310 ballots, are valid . . . Most of the counties are in rural areas." (AP)
- The Sect. of State's list of provisional ballots, by county, is located here, but has not been updated from Nov. 3.
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KEYWORDS: anotherfatladysong; hapless; liberals; ohio; provisional; provisionalballots
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To: Tennessean4Bush; All
This website provides data for 66 counties, but only includes 65 in its current count?!
FYI: Of the 22 remaining counties, President Bush originally won 12 and Kerry won 10 (Bush +2). This +2 advantage will help the President deflect potentially large gains for Kerry from the still-to-report counties of Cuyahoga (Cleveland) and Franklin (Columbus) -- Hamilton (Cincinnati) and Montgomery (Dayton) have already been included in this cite's tallies.
Bottomline: The President will own a lead of at least 100,000 votes going into a possible recount; consequently, even if all 90,000 'soiled' ballots are included in the recount (improbable) and go 100% for Kerry (statistically impossible), the President will still retain his victory in Ohio!
[BTW: It's HIGHLY probable that Ohio will certify its election/determine its EC reps BEFORE a recount can be completed, making the recount absolutely meaningless!!]
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posted on
11/27/2004 9:46:39 PM PST
by
DrDeb
To: DrDeb
even if all 90,000 'soiled' ballots are included in the recount (improbable) and go 100% for Kerry (statistically impossible), the President will still retain his victory in Ohio! I have seen several posts by Freepers that were poll workers who explained the "soiled" or "spoiled" ballots as ballots where a voter made a mistake and asked for a new one. If that is the case, there is no way they would be counted- they are duplicate (and flawed) votes.
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posted on
11/27/2004 10:11:16 PM PST
by
luv2ski
To: gswilder
And the folks at DU think the MSM is not reporting all this fraud because they are "in bed" with the republicans. HA HA HA! Get real folks. I've been reading DU for a week or so. They are absolutely delusional over there. They still think Bush's win is being proven a fraud and Kerry will win. Totally nuts.
43
posted on
11/27/2004 10:23:42 PM PST
by
Jorge
To: SamAdams76
I am keeping my fingers crossed that Bush can still pull this one out. Yes. Bush is hanging onto his 135,000 vote lead, but just barely. It's a real nail-biter!
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posted on
11/27/2004 10:28:07 PM PST
by
Jorge
To: Tennessean4Bush
Erie Co: According to elections officials, 838 provisional ballots were okayed out of 972 cast. The results are Bush +583, Kerry +756
583+756 makes up 838 provisional ballots allowed? That is eerie indeed!
45
posted on
11/27/2004 10:40:01 PM PST
by
skr
(A Blessed Christmas and Happy Hanukkah to all!)
To: luv2ski
I have seen several posts by Freepers that were poll workers who explained the "soiled" or "spoiled" ballots as ballots where a voter made a mistake and asked for a new one. If that is the case, there is no way they would be counted- they are duplicate (and flawed) votes. While I don't doubt this is the case, WHY keep them around for for the democrats to use as just another way to try to include them? When the voter makes a mistake and asks for a new ballot, why aren't they torn up, shredded, thrown away right away, etc.? Or at the very least, the word VOID should be written in large letters in red ink over it.
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posted on
11/27/2004 11:15:09 PM PST
by
gop_gene
To: Jorge
I've been reading DU for a week or so. They are absolutely delusional over there. They still think Bush's win is being proven a fraud and Kerry will win. Totally nuts. I know they're delusional, but ummmmmmm . . . HOW can they think Kerry can possibly prevail? First off, many of the counties have already counted their provisional/absentee ballots, so even if Kerry were to win every single one of the remaining ones left (impossible), he'd still fall short. And as for the spoiled ballots, they're, well, spoiled, so they don't count, if I'm not mistaken. The dems can sue and sue their way to Timbuktu to get all the invalid provisionals and spoiled ballots counted, but they don't have any of their crooked friends in charge to aid them.
Did you happen to read just exactly HOW they think Kerry will manage to flip the state?
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posted on
11/27/2004 11:21:55 PM PST
by
gop_gene
To: Tennessean4Bush
John F*ckin' got only 60% of the vote in his own HOME state for crying out loud. He won't do better in a Republican state under the best case scenario and that's why he conceded.
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posted on
11/27/2004 11:30:50 PM PST
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: Jorge
And another point I forgot--how can they overcome Bush's sizeable enough 135,000 vote lead when they couldn't even do it in FL in 2000, when he had an alarmingly tiny 1200 vote lead and the dems had some of their people in charge to help them (the FL supreme court, the 2-1 democrat to republican county board of elections in democrat counties). Oh well, I guess being a deluded democrat means never having to consider, much less face, these facts.
49
posted on
11/27/2004 11:36:16 PM PST
by
gop_gene
To: gop_gene
I think what the DUers are solely expecting now is imminent proof of massive fraud in the regular votes cast which apparently is just on the Republican side and so massive that it will erase the lead Bush has.
They are also blathering about how they won Florida, and recently have been talking to a lesser degree about getting NM, IA and NV back on their side.
They *really* need mental help and/or need to continue their education beyond the 6th grade.
50
posted on
11/28/2004 12:28:18 AM PST
by
Tacos
To: Tennessean4Bush
Wow, I was born in Scioto County.
I'm pretty sure the town isn't even there anymore.
L
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posted on
11/28/2004 12:32:35 AM PST
by
Lurker
(As a matter of fact, I do serve Satan. But my duties are largely ceremonial.)
To: Tacos
I think what the DUers are solely expecting now is imminent proof of massive fraud in the regular votes cast which apparently is just on the Republican side and so massive that it will erase the lead Bush has. Well, they had such "proof" (snort) in FL 2000, a million blacks were disenfranchised, weren't they, as well as countless, hapless Jews who voted for Buchanan. FAT lot of good it did them then, and a fat lot of good it'll do them now. The stuff I'm reading on the web, it sounds just like all the conspiracy theories and hysteria of 4 years ago, yet they expect a different result to occur. Keep on dreaming.
52
posted on
11/28/2004 12:58:58 AM PST
by
gop_gene
To: Tennessean4Bush
Now that the election is over it's time for all American's to heal the divide between our two opposing sides. To help with the healing I've been posting on DU and trying to help feed their Dieboldian fantasies. Since there is no way these psychos will ever concede that Bush won it's probably safer for all concerned to keep them busy chasing their tails with phantom conspiracy theories and thus preventing them from harming themselves or each other-who says Republicans have no heart?
53
posted on
11/28/2004 3:59:27 AM PST
by
Larry381
(Wanted: Country willing to import thousands of whining liberals-no returns accepted)
To: Tennessean4Bush
According to elections officials, 573 provisional ballots were okayed out of 650 cast. The results are Bush +575, Kerry +171 Typo?
54
posted on
11/28/2004 6:41:16 AM PST
by
The_Victor
(Calvin: "Do tigers wear pajamas?", Hobbes: "Truth is we never take them off.")
To: Tennessean4Bush
The Bush administration better do somethiong about voter fraud .
It is bad enough that SoreLoserman in 2000 tried to steal the election and pull a coup d'etat, in addition to intense voter fraud.
The voter fraud in 2004 seems even more intense than in 2000.
In 2008, if nothing is done, it will be like the Ukraine's election.
Although it is a county issue, the high degree of voter fraud hits on the Constitutionality of it all under "equal protetion" since honest voters are being disenfranchised. This is where the U.S. government needs to step in and overhaul the registration and voting process to make it much harder for voter fraud to occur.
55
posted on
11/28/2004 6:53:46 AM PST
by
Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
(John Kerry--three fake Purple Hearts. George Bush--one real heart of gold.)
To: Bat_Chemist
These numbers also include the overseas absentee ballots.
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posted on
11/28/2004 8:58:11 AM PST
by
jveritas
To: gswilder
I read some posts at DU - O-M-G
Those people, are nuts!
They compare Bush to sHitler, American right to Nazis, boy scouts to Nazis everything about America they do NOT agree with is compared to the Nazis!!!
They are freaking NUTS....
Oh yeah - They also STILL hold out that Kerry will be inaugurated in January - Freaking NUTS -
Did NOT read many if any, sane posts over there on the delusional message board.
DU are DUmmies
To: DrDeb
The President will own a lead of at least 100,000 votes You are being way too generous. Bush's lead will be 120,000 votes at least. I am guessing about 130,000.
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posted on
11/28/2004 10:17:10 AM PST
by
Tennessean4Bush
(An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds, a pessimist fears this is true.)
To: gop_gene
Did you happen to read just exactly HOW they think Kerry will manage to flip the state? They are just all over the map inventing all sorts of scenarios where they think Kerry will still be proven the real winner.
They are so angry and frustrated that the mainstream media isn't all over this "story" they are almost incoherant. You really have to read it for yourself.
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posted on
11/28/2004 12:42:32 PM PST
by
Jorge
To: Tennessean4Bush
Summary of provisional ballots count - UPDATED 11/29/04
Note: 71 of 88 counties have reported.
Current % of provisionals being counted: 78%
Current "additional" vote count:
Bush +39,217
Kerry +35,419
Please note, some of the largest counties have still not reported.
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posted on
11/29/2004 12:17:45 PM PST
by
finnman69
(cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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