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What a waste. Just Damn.
1 posted on 11/27/2004 4:07:31 AM PST by DirtyHarryY2K
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

All over the world, dishonest governments are using the lottery (the big prize) to finance the budget.


2 posted on 11/27/2004 4:12:45 AM PST by Truth666 (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Proof+that+at+least+one+of+two%22)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

The lottery is nothing but a tax on those who cannot comprehend Probability and Statistics


3 posted on 11/27/2004 4:15:49 AM PST by Knute (The PEOPLE have spoken!)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

First thing I'd do is put half of the money where I can't touch it.


5 posted on 11/27/2004 4:19:23 AM PST by The Raven
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

Could this story be less complete? It might as well say "Once apon a time." Where's the rest of it?


6 posted on 11/27/2004 4:20:12 AM PST by Gigantor (Reelecting Bush and defeating Daschle is like finding Osama's phone number in Saddam's pocket.)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K
Shortly before his death, Harrell confided to a financial adviser: "Winning the lottery is the worst thing that ever happened to me."

No, late Mr. Harrell, winning the lottery was NOT the worst thing that ever happened to you. Your own weakness in letting yourself be bankrupted by fake-o sob stories from every con artist and new "friend" that came down the pike was the worst thing that ever happened to you.

Idiot.

8 posted on 11/27/2004 4:20:30 AM PST by asgardshill (November 2004 - The Month That Just Kept On Giving)
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Make one reflect about what to do upon such fortune. I think I would join a monastery for a year just to escape the public and whatever family members think. Then I'd continue to live a sort of hermit life that I already have.
10 posted on 11/27/2004 4:22:41 AM PST by SaltyJoe
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

The guy simply couldn't manage his life ... period. He didn't have it bad before or after winning the lottery.


12 posted on 11/27/2004 4:23:29 AM PST by BunnySlippers (George W. Bush is our president ... Get over it!)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K
"Money does not buy happiness"

Now that being said...

They have yet to find a country where the wretched poor run around with big smiles on their faces.
13 posted on 11/27/2004 4:23:50 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: DirtyHarryY2K
"But everyone, it seemed -- family, friends, fellow worshipers and strangers -- was putting the touch on him. "

Well, he sure showed THEM! That'll teach'em!

If this ever happened to me, I'd have no problem telling family and total stranger deadbeats and sponges to go pi$$ up a rope.

14 posted on 11/27/2004 4:23:58 AM PST by Slump Tester (John Kerry - When even your best still isn't good enough)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K; 4ConservativeJustices
The fed just needs to hold their own lottery worldwide with winnings in the billions....

AND QUIT TAXING US 'RICH FOLKS'!!!

17 posted on 11/27/2004 4:25:55 AM PST by Ff--150 (III John 2)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

The most sad thing is that he only got a name after he died
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Billie+Bob+Harrell%22


18 posted on 11/27/2004 4:25:57 AM PST by Truth666 (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Proof+that+at+least+one+of+two%22)
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He relished the role of being an easy touch. But everyone, it seemed -- family, friends, fellow worshipers and strangers -- was putting the touch on him.

The manner in which the money is ACQUIRED is the reason any and everyone who knows the winner feels free to ask for, and in the case of family, EXPECT a chunk of it. HARD-EARNED money doesn't carry this expectation of its recipient.

I feel sorry for lottery winners, and I think a study would prove that most die miserable. I will not buy a lottery ticket because I am afraid I wll WIN.

21 posted on 11/27/2004 4:30:09 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

Once you have enough money to put a roof over your head and food on the table and provide for other basic needs, everything else is just gravy.

One thing Americans must learn is to quit buying every piece of junk that comes along, just because it exists.

Madison Avenue keeps telling us we need more and more stuff.

It ain't the path to happiness.


23 posted on 11/27/2004 4:32:35 AM PST by EEDUDE (Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.)
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"Winning the lottery is the worst thing that ever happened to me." Because he allowed this to happen: “But everyone, it seemed -- family, friends, fellow worshipers and strangers -- was putting the touch on him. His spending and his lending spiraled out of control.”
If I ever remember to buy that winning lottery ticket – a really big one – the first thing I would do is pay off the few bills I have, write checks to my daughter, sister and a few friends then set up an investment portfolio.
Then I would by a large RV and find a new place to live. I too am a soft touch, but I know from experience that a soft touch can often be slammed.


24 posted on 11/27/2004 4:33:11 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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This is a very interesting phenomenon and it doesn't just affect lottery winners.

Just what are the responsibilities of one from a poor family who achieves financial success? The pressure is always on that individual to "provide" for the rest of the family (which may also include distant relatives and friends). The more generous that individual is, the more that resentment is generated because is it never enough and some family members are going to always feel short-changed.

It's a no-win situation.

I happen to be in that situation myself. My wife and I are far from "rich" but we have achieved a level of financial success that far exceeds the rest of the family. It makes social situations somewhat awkward and we are often hit up for money by those family members less fortuate, or should I say, those family members who have made more mistakes in life and now are pleading with us to bail them out.

We are able to brush them off by telling them that we aren't as "rich" as we seem to be (and we aren't - we are just good at managing our money), but Lottery winners don't have that luxury. Everybody knows exactly how rich they are because the amount is published in all the papers.

Point is, I know exactly what this poor man went through. He was evidently trying so hard to be everything to everybody and he ended up pissing everybody off.

As soon as you gain the reputation of being a "soft-touch", they will suck you dry everytime. And instead of showing appreciation, they will actually tell others (behind your back) how little you gave them compared to everybody else.

During the course of my life, other family members have said to others how greedy and selfish we were because we didn't spot them that $5,000 "loan" or help them get out of that credit card trouble. But my wife and I are wise enough to know that they are actually the greedy and selfish ones. It's a shame that this man never gained the same wisdom.

28 posted on 11/27/2004 4:41:39 AM PST by SamAdams76 (Red Sox Win The World Series...And Bush Wins Re-election Too!)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

If anyone has ever had a death in the family....same thing happens...all the vultures come out for their piece of the pie.

I feel bad that he was so stressed that he felt he had no choice in life, but he should have thought about the people he was leaving behind (close family members who loved him for who he was, not what he won). They will never be the same. Suicide is not the answer.


34 posted on 11/27/2004 4:47:19 AM PST by Ginifer
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

True story. A young lady won the lottery. Her Boyfriend made it known that he expected half, since he bought her the ticket. Her husband became a somewhat wealthy ex-husband.


41 posted on 11/27/2004 4:56:17 AM PST by cannonball
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A lottery official confirmed that, yes indeed, they held the only winning ticket in the $31 million drawing.

"So we headed straight to a safe deposit box," says Harrell's oldest son. Additionally, before rushing off to Austin to collect his money, Texas's newest millionaire put financial safeguards in motion as well.

After taking the ticket to a safe deposit box, Harrell contacted Steve Drake, the host of the KPRC-AM financial talk show. Drake put the Harrells in touch with attorney Karen Gerstner, one of the few experts in providing legal and financial advice to those who have cashed in big on the lottery.

"Lottery winners are always in a hurry to get their money, so you have to rush around like crazy and put their documentation together," says Gerstner. A pleasant, dark-haired woman in her forties, Gerstner has a nurturing demeanor. She seems more likely to offer someone a glass of milk and a plate of cookies rather than cutting-edge financial advice.

Gerstner recalls that the Harrells were hardly an exception when it came to wanting their money yesterday, that when she first met the Harrells, Billie Bob mentioned that his bank account was overdrawn. Instead of letting them rush to grab the winnings, Gerstner urged the couple to take it slow.

The legal specialist explains that the lottery allows only one claimant for the prize, so she suggested that the Harrells establish a trust to receive the payments. When they won, the Harrells elected to take their winnings in annual installments for 25 years.

Gerstner says married couples who win often don't realize that if their spouse dies, the estate is suddenly faced with a huge, sudden tax burden that includes tax due on future lottery payments. A trust avoids that tax overload, she explains.

Although Billie Bob and Barbara Jean were champing to move into a higher tax bracket, Gerstner convinced them to let her set up the trust first.

At the Harrells' insistence, both Drake and Gerstner accompanied them to Austin to pick up the first installment check three weeks after the lottery drawing. Following the presentation ceremony, the Harrell family, their parents, their minister and their advisers all lunched together to celebrate -- over hamburgers, french fries and onion rings. Gerstner says she could tell that Barbara Jean and Billie Bob were each close to both sets of parents, although the trust contained no benefits for the parents. The Harrells agreed with her that the trust should be modified to provide those benefits.

Gerstner drafted a revised trust with provisions for the parents and mailed it to the Harrells. It was never signed and returned, she says, although Gerstner was not concerned. Soon after getting their hands on the money, the Harrells took a trip to Hawaii. Gerstner also learned that Billie Bob became interested in purchasing art and real estate. She attempted to contact them several times, by both phone and mail, about finishing the trust modifications and doing more tax planning. She never heard back.

"I just figured they were too busy," says Gerstner. When Barbara Jean called her six months later, the Harrells' marriage was unraveling.

In February 1998 Barbara Jean and divorce attorney Mike Stocker instructed Gerstner to revise the trust so her money would be separate from Billie Bob's.

The estranged wife, says Gerstner, explained that Billie Bob was spending money like mad and had a young girlfriend.

"I was very sad to hear about the divorce," says Gerstner. "But I could understand that Barbara Jean was fed up with Billie Bob's case of the middle-aged crazies."

Barbara Jean Harrell refused to speak with the Press. However, her three children -- Billie Bob III, Ben, 22, and Michelle, 20 -- agreed to be interviewed, but only if their attorney was present.

According to the kids, not long after Billie Bob won the lottery, life in the Harrell household was forever altered.

"First of all, we had to change our phone number about seven times," says Ben, the executor of his father's estate. He did most of the talking for his older brother and younger sister. "It was supposed to be unlisted, but then someone would call. People seemed to have no trouble getting the number. We also got a mountain of mail."

Letters, says Ben, were usually handwritten notes from people who said they felt moved to write to the Harrells and explain to them their own dire situations. And yes, they all wanted to know if there wasn't some way the Harrells could help them financially.

Harrell family members were at times prisoners in their home. People drove by outside, hoping to catch a glimpse of these lottery winners. Others wanted to touch them, for luck. During a shopping trip at Wal-Mart, a woman approached Barbara Jean and told her that she had purchased $500 worth of lottery tickets in the same drawing won by the Harrells, and she expected them to refund her money. The incident frightened Barbara Jean.

"People would tell you that their daughter was dying, and couldn't we just send a check to help her live," says Ben. "They'd tell you their life story, and you'd like to believe them, but you just can't."

At least most of the Harrells didn't buy the sob stories. Billie Bob was different, say his children. In addition to his new interest in art, antique cars and real estate, Billie Bob also enjoyed helping other people, his kids say. Perhaps too much so.

Upon receiving the first installment, a check for around $1.2 million, Harrell first handed over 10 percent -- his tithe -- to Calvary Tabernacle Pentecostal, the church in Trinity where he worshiped. A family friend became pastor of a church in Colorado, so Billie Bob wrote a check to that congregation. One Christmas Billie Bob ponied up the cash for 480 turkey dinners for needy families. The kids also say anytime a member of Calvary Tabernacle was in a tight spot, Billie Bob was there with his ever-present checkbook and pen.

"I think a lot of people just came to expect him to do that," says Ben. "People would make a fuss over him, and he really enjoyed that a lot. He enjoyed the attention. He'd rather have that attention more than buying himself something."

There were also, the children say, gifts for another admirer: Billie Bob had found a young girlfriend. She worked at the pharmacy where he got prescriptions filled for high blood pressure, depression and acid reflux. And she got from him a car, jewelry and other presents.

Most disturbing of all, say the kids, were the companies that relentlessly attempted to get their father to sell his future lottery installments in exchange for a lump sum. One of the most persistent, they say, was Stone Street Capital, a company that operates out of Bethesda, Maryland, and specializes in cashing out lottery winners and other people who are to receive large payments spread over several years. And after a couple of years of hemorrhaging money, Billie Bob apparently decided that he could no longer live on his half of the $1.2 million a year. He signed on with Stone Street for a quick infusion of cash. But to get the money, Billie Bob knew that the trust would have to be altered. He once again turned to attorney Karen Gerstner.

After splitting the trust in half, with Barbara Jean and Billie Bob getting equal shares of the lottery winnings, attorney Gerstner assumed she had heard the last of the Harrells.

Instead, she says, things got worse a few weeks later when she began receiving calls from Houston attorney Vic Bonner, who claimed to represent Billie Bob. Gerstner says Bonner told her that he had finally hooked up Billy Bob with Stone Street. Bonner told her that Billie Bob would receive $2.25 million in cash in exchange for ten years' worth of his share of the lottery winnings, worth more than $6 million gross. Gerstner says she immediately knew it was a very bad deal for Billie Bob. She was also concerned about the legality.

"It is not legal in Texas for a lottery winner to assign their stream of payment [to someone else] in order to obtain any kind of loan or purchase anything," says Gerstner. She assumed that after she relayed her concerns to Bonner, that would be the end of it.

It wasn't. Gerstner says Harrell and Bonner then began pestering Barbara Jean about getting in on the deal. Harrell said it somehow involved the acquisition of bonds through a company called H&H Worldwide, and a man named Paul Hulse (who reportedly lives in one of the homes purchased by Harrell). As Billie Bob explained it to Gerstner and Barbara Jean, the bond would service the debt that he would have after doing the loan with Stone Street. That explanation left even a financial expert like Gerstner, as well as Harrell's family, with their heads spinning.

"In talking with him about the deal," says son Ben, "I found he could never actually completely explain to you how the deal would work. Every time it was something different. Something would change, and something off-the-wall would come in."

Despite the warnings of his financial attorney and the misgivings of his family, Gerstner says, Billie Bob still plowed ahead. She still believes the arrangement circumvents the spirit of the state law, if not violates it. According to the contract, Billie Bob's half of the trust was placed in the control of TrustCorp America, Inc. It would receive the annual lottery payments, which would be used to repay the Stone Street loan.

"They are getting around the lottery by creating a second step," says Gerstner. "But I think it's really a distinction without a difference. They're still skirting the lottery rules."

A state lottery spokesman told the Press he was unaware of any complaints filed with the commission regarding Stone Street. Nor, he says, have there been a significant number of complaints about buyout companies in general. Citing confidentiality agreements, a spokesman for Stone Street Capital declined to comment on the company's dealings with Billie Bob Harrell Jr. The Press was unable to contact Hulse or H&H Worldwide.

When the Press reached attorney Vic Bonner by phone at his Houston law office, he first asked, "Do you want me to name names?" When told that was indeed the idea, Bonner said he would like to collect his thoughts before responding to any questions. He is apparently still collecting those thoughts, as he did not return subsequent phone calls.

Financial adviser Steve Drake spoke with Billie Bob Harrell Jr. for the last time in early May 1999. During the phone conversation, Drake urged Harrell not to go through with the deal with Stone Street, but Harrell wouldn't listen.

"He told me he that, at that point, he was in so deep that if backed out, he was afraid they would sue him," recalls Drake. He also encouraged Harrell to take out insurance to cover estate taxes that would be due if he died suddenly.

Three weeks later -- five weeks after he signed the loan agreement with Stone Street -- that unheeded advice would prove to be prophetic.

May 22 approached as the kind of Saturday that held the prospect, however faint, of a rebound for the Harrell family.

Since his divorce three months earlier, Harrell hardly had millionaire looks. His children say he'd suffered a drastic loss in weight, dropping from 220 pounds to about 170. He looked at them with a crimson face through which all the veins in his cheeks were visible. Harrell had lapsed into a personality that was moody or outright depressed.

He told Barbara Jean he wanted a reconciliation. She didn't give him that. But she did consent to have a Saturday dinner with him and their children. Maybe it would be a small taste of the old times they'd had together.

At about 4 p.m. Harrell stopped by his daughter's place of work to pick up the keys to Barbara Jean's house because, he said, he wanted to drop off some flowers. Around 5:40 p.m. Barbara Jean, Billie III, Michelle, Ben and Ben's girlfriend arrived at Barbara Jean's house. They went through the house, but there was no sign of Billie Bob. The only area they hadn't checked was the upstairs master bedroom, which was locked.

One of the sons broke open the door. Inside, they found Harrell's nude body lying face down on the floor. Beside the body was a Winchester model 37 shotgun with a spent shell. An unfired shell was in one of the front pockets of a pair of blue jean shorts also on the floor. A police report notes that the butt of the shotgun was shattered, indicating that the weapon had been placed against the floor or a wall beam at the time of discharge.

An autopsy by the Harris County Medical Examiner's Office lists the cause of Harrell's death as a suicide from a contact shotgun wound to the chest. "The shotgun blast struck the heart and went toward the left side striking the lung and hemidiaphragm." There is some indication of a downward trajectory, since the report also mentions that Harrell's spleen was shredded by the blast, although veteran crime investigators note that it is not unusual for the BB-like 7.5-millimeter pellets to travel in odd directions inside the body.

Two veteran homicide investigators, who requested anonymity, reviewed the police and autopsy reports at the request of the Press. They indicated that while there are some minor discrepancies, Harrell's death appears to be a clear-cut case of suicide.

That finding, however unanimous among authorities, has yet to be accepted by two of the people closest to Harrell: his parents.

At their home in Trinity, east of Huntsville, Billie Bob Sr. and Tina Harrell, who are still taking their son's death hard, cautiously greet a reporter. Their minister, Guy Hargrove, who was also their dead son's pastor, is there too. The interview begins with Billie Sr. reading from Isaiah 57:

"The righteous perishes,

And no man takes it to heart;

Merciful men are taken away,

While no one considers

That the righteous is taken away from evil.

He shall enter into peace;

They shall rest in their beds,

Each one walking in his uprightness.

That Bible verse, he says, has given him and his wife great comfort since the death of their son, a man who they say always tried to do the right thing. And they cannot conceive that their son would take his own life, under any circumstances.

"He never showed any signs like that at all to us, or to anybody we've talked to," says Billie Sr. "That's what puzzles us so much."

The eldest Harrell is also puzzled by his and his wife's suddenly strained relationship with their grandchildren and former daughter-in-law. The grandparents say their son intended to make the payments on their new house and motor home. Now, they say, their grandchildren do not plan to honor their father's wishes.

But what the elder Harrells do not seem to understand is that, at the moment, their grandchildren are trying to figure out how to pay the estate taxes they owe as a result of their father's death. The Harrell children also want to know what happened to the $2.25 million their father supposedly received in exchange for ten years' worth of lottery installments. To find out, they recently hired attorney Norman Riedmueller, who says he has some questions for Vic Bonner, Paul Hulse and Stone Street Capital.

"So far there is no definite evidence of wrongdoing," says Riedmueller. "But I think it's safe to say that there's supposed to be some money in this estate. Yes, he was generous to churches, but the present state of affairs is that [the kids] can't raise the money to pay the taxes that are owed. There's nothing there. You'd think they'd be rolling in dough. And that's my assignment: Where's the money? This estate should not be in the condition it's in."

While their grandparents live 20 miles away and are in denial that Billie Bob Jr.'s death was a suicide, the Harrell children attend classes at Sam Houston State in Huntsville, living in a house that their father bought for them. From time to time, they reflect on what they had, what they've lost -- and what they really need.

"You've got to be happy with yourself," says Ben, "and happy with your loved ones. You don't take that for granted."

Ben's words are hauntingly similar to what are believed to be among the last thoughts of his father. In the bedroom where Billie Bob Harrell Jr. took his life, there were also three handwritten, unsigned notes. One was apparently meant for his ex-wife. It might as well have been addressed to his entire family:

"I didn't want this. I just wanted you."


53 posted on 11/27/2004 5:07:19 AM PST by kcvl
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This whole story is bogus :
http://www.google.com/search?q=+lottery+%22attorney+Karen+Gerstner%22


55 posted on 11/27/2004 5:08:08 AM PST by Truth666 (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Proof+that+at+least+one+of+two%22)
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Perhaps the secret would be to give generously to charities, but *never* to any individual.


67 posted on 11/27/2004 5:13:51 AM PST by I_dmc
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