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While a rather long vanity, I felt it my duty as a good member of freerepublic to post knowledge of the shooting area and culture. In my opinion, freerepublic functions best when it brings personal expertise to bear on national events. These are my personal observations. As such I did not include references or footnotes. I ask forgiveness for spelling and grammer errors, in part as I am visiting for the holiday and felt pressed to post this while the topic was of continued interest.
1 posted on 11/25/2004 3:08:09 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Excellent post, thank you for taking the time to do this.


2 posted on 11/25/2004 3:14:02 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: marktwain

I missed the part about the Hmong and their diaspora from Vietnam.


3 posted on 11/25/2004 3:16:06 PM PST by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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To: marktwain; muawiyah; B4Ranch; Squantos; Travis McGee
Thank you for this well-written piece about your neighborhood.
4 posted on 11/25/2004 3:16:27 PM PST by risk
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To: marktwain

Bump

I hope your thread sticks around until this holiday is over. I'm afraid not too many freepers will see it.

Well done.


5 posted on 11/25/2004 3:17:17 PM PST by EggsAckley (...............stop unnecessary excerpting.................)
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To: marktwain

Excellent post!


10 posted on 11/25/2004 3:30:17 PM PST by monkeywrench
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It sounds a lot like our upper peninsula of Michigan.

I will add that a hunter was killed in this state about two years ago not far from the site of this recent shooting. He was shot twice in the back and the case was never solved. There does seem to be a potential connection that interests the police.
12 posted on 11/25/2004 3:32:52 PM PST by cripplecreek (I come swinging the olive branch of peace.)
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To: marktwain

Thank you for posting this excellently written background.


14 posted on 11/25/2004 3:33:17 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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Mark,

Your report is one of the best ever published here; and thank you.

16 posted on 11/25/2004 3:38:32 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: marktwain
As a man who has spent many a Thankgiving in a "North Woods" deer camp (Hiles, WI) I can vouch for all of this being true.

Thanks for the post.

17 posted on 11/25/2004 3:43:25 PM PST by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 61,103,636 Bush fans.)
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To: marktwain

Thanks. If venison steaks became popular throughout the US, your herds would dwindle quickly. Probably, too quickly.


18 posted on 11/25/2004 3:44:51 PM PST by wizr (Let's put Christ back in Christmas. Love is the most wonderful gift. John 3:16)
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To: marktwain; Ladysmith; Iowa Granny; All

Wow! Excellent! Thanks for posting this - it certainly corresponds with my recollection also, growing up and living nearby. And...I also worked for DNR in the 70's. Small world, eh?


19 posted on 11/25/2004 3:46:37 PM PST by JLO
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ping


20 posted on 11/25/2004 3:50:15 PM PST by ozaukeemom (From one of my 13 yr old's friends"If Kerry is the question, the answer is Stupid")
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To: marktwain

That is an excellent background article. It is much the same here in Pennsylvania. Schools will be closed on Monday, the first day of deer season. Families are already traveling up to their cabins for several days of comradeship and enjoyment of Penn's Woods.

Our hunters are well-trained from youth and are generally very careful and considerate.

It is the "visitors" from other states who sometimes create problems.

The last murder I can recall during deer season was when a man trespassed on a judge's property. When the judge asked him to leave, the "hunter" shot him dead in cold blood. That was about 25 years ago.

The mainstream media trying to spin this Wisconsin massacre as some sort of racial incident is spurious, to say the least.


21 posted on 11/25/2004 3:55:52 PM PST by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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This story was a real media letdown!

If all the participants were white, it would have been small anti-gun story.

If the shooter was black and the victims was white, it wouldn't have been a story.

If the shooter was white and the victims were black, this would have pre-empted the Macy's Thanksgiving day parade, and so on for the next 2 weeks.

But the shooter was asian( an immigrant?) and the vics were white so the media has a problem...it can't condemn third world immigrants, and we can't express sympathy for white male hunters, murdered though they surely were...thus the story must fade.

IMHO, the morals of the story are (1) Stop Immigration (2)the media is full of BS


23 posted on 11/25/2004 4:02:17 PM PST by CAPTAIN PHOTON
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thank you MT for taking the time to write this. Good job.


24 posted on 11/25/2004 4:03:37 PM PST by JockoManning
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To: marktwain
NEW YORK TIMES article it is NOT!

Thank you for your personnel background of the traditions of this part of our country and educating me about this unfortunate tragedy.

I am not surprised that no one shot back at this assailant. The event is so rare as to be far outside normal experience. No one shoots another person deliberately in deer season!

I suspect that even those who were shot did not realize that they had been shot deliberately for some time.

I never understood why no one fired back. Thanks to you, I know how kind and good those who were shot must have been.

25 posted on 11/25/2004 4:13:35 PM PST by Major_Risktaker
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Well said, marktwain, a good backgrounder, and thank you. I live a bit more than 20 miles from the murder scene. Just about everyone around here knew or knew of the victims and their families. Long after this tragedy fades from the headlines, the grief and disbelief here will remain.


27 posted on 11/25/2004 4:15:07 PM PST by timberlandko (Murphy was an optimist.)
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I have lifelong connections to Three Lakes. In recent years, the deer have been so thick it's like living on a deer farm. Sooner or later every motorist hits at least one; I used to see fresh road kill every day.

My memories align with yours. In years gone by (before hunters were required to wear orange), there were invariably a number of deaths due to hunting accidents. But I cannot remember even one homicide.

29 posted on 11/25/2004 4:23:15 PM PST by T'wit (Liberalism is a cancer in a free society. The blue areas in the map reveal its spread in America.)
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To: marktwain

Great post.

I heard on Fox that he might have started to hunt humans. Very sad to say the least .


32 posted on 11/25/2004 4:52:55 PM PST by Deetes
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I don't consider it a 'vanity' at all. Your knowledge is first-hand and highly relevant (as well as being very well written). Thanks.

Much of what you've written reminds my of my own corner of Pennsylvania.


33 posted on 11/25/2004 4:56:59 PM PST by Petronski (New York London Paris Munich Ev'rybody Talk About Mmm Pop Music)
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