Posted on 11/25/2004 1:38:25 PM PST by InfantryMarine
Got this in an E-mail today...
It's a safety issue pure and simple. After assaulting through a target, put a security round in everybody's head. Sorry al-Reuters, there's no paddy wagon rolling around Fallujah picking up "prisoners" and offering them a hot cup a joe, falafel, and a blanket. There's no time to dick around in the target, you clear the space, dump the chumps, and moveon.org.
Are Corpsman expected to treat wounded terrorists? Negative.
Remember, in Fallujah there is no yesterday, there is no tomorrow, there is only now. Right NOW. Have you ever lived in NOW for a week? It is not easy, and if you have never lived in NOW for longer than it takes to finish the big roller coaster at Six Flags, then shut your hole about putting Marines in jail for war crimes.
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They're Called Security Rounds!
It's a safety issue pure and simple. After assaulting through a target, put a security round in everybody's head. Sorry al-Reuters, there's no paddy wagon rolling around Fallujah picking up "prisoners" and offering them a hot cup a joe, falafel, and a blanket. There's no time to dick around in the target, you clear the space, dump the chumps, and moveon.org.
Are Corpsman expected to treat wounded terrorists? Negative.
Hey libs, worried about the defense budget? Well, it would be waste, fraud, and abuse for a Corpsman to spend one man minute or a battle dressing on a terrorist, its much cheaper to just spend the $.02 on a 5.56mm FMJ.
By the way, terrorists who chop off civilian's heads are not prisoners, they are carcasses.
UPDATE: Let me be very clear about this issue. I have looked around the web, and many people get this concept, but there are some stragglers.
Here is your situation Marine:
You just took fire from unlawful combatants shooting from a religious building attempting to use the sanctuary status of their position as protection. But you're in Fallujah now, and the Marine Corps has decided that they're not playing that game this time. That was Najaf. So you set the mosque on fire and you hose down the terrorists with small arms, launch some AT-4s (Rockets), some 40MM grenades into the building and things quiet down. So you run over there, and find some tangos wounded and pretending to be dead.
You are aware that suicide martyrdom is like really popular with these kind of idiots, and like taking some Marines with them would be really cool. So you can either risk your life and your fireteam's lives by having them cover you while you bend down and search a guy that you think is pretending to be dead for some reason.
Also, you don't know who or what is in the next room, and you're already speaking english to each other and its loud because your hearing is poor from shooting people for several days. So you know that there are many other rooms to enter, and that if anyone is still alive in those rooms, they know that Americans are in the mosque. Meanwhile (3 seconds later), you still have this terrorist that was just shooting at you from a mosque playing possum. What do you do?
You double tap his head, and you go to the next room, that's what.
What about the Geneva Conventions and all that Law of Land Warfare stuff?
What about it?
Without even addressing the issues at hand you first thought should be, "I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6." Bear in mind that this is a perpetual mindset that is reinforced by experiences gained on a minute by minute basis.
Secondly, you are fighting an unlawful combatant in a Sanctuary which is a double No No on his part.
Third, tactically you are in no position to take "prisoners" because there are more rooms to search and clear, and the behavior of said terrorist indicates that he is up to no good.
No good in Fallujah is a very large place and the low end of no good and the high end of no good are fundamentally the same... Marines get hurt or die. So there is no compelling reason for you to do anything but double tap this idiot and get on with the mission.
If you are a veteran then everything I have just written is self evident, if you are not a veteran than at least try to put yourself in the situation.
Remember, in Fallujah there is no yesterday, there is no tomorrow, there is only now. Right NOW. Have you ever lived in NOW for a week? It is not easy, and if you have never lived in NOW for longer than it takes to finish the big roller coaster at Six Flags, then shut your hole about putting Marines in jail for war crimes.
Be advised, I am not talking to my readers, but if this post gets linked up, I want regular folks to get this message loud and clear.
As one of my good friends, a retired Marine, would say - -
HOOO-RAH!
Great post, should definitely be read by those who just don't get it!
Loved the Al-Reuters moniker! I'm gonna call 'em that from now on!
Anyone got an appropriate ping list?
The modern warrior's code.
OOORRRAAAHHH!!! Devil Dog BUMP!
I understand. This U. S. Air Force Airman understands. I may not have lived through what you Marines have though I want you to know my finger was on all those triggers too. If the idiots want to put you combat veterans in jail they can put me in with you. I don't think we'll go easy though. God Bless you all.
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http://froggyruminations.blogspot.com/
You have to accommodate your thinking to the thinking of the enemy. Shooting wounded in the head during WW II in Europe would have been unspeakable. The Golden Rule applies in wartime as well as peacetime. You have to realize what they would do unto you in order make the judgement of what you must do unto them. Sorry, but that is the way the world works.
We are re-learning lessons the hard way. Read the book "Pork Chop Hill." In Korea, an extra troop was added to the machine-gun team. His job was to hump more ammo, and follow along with a carbine and shoot any "dead" Chinese, to assure they were really dead.
Well said, Marine!
As I'm sure ANY Marine knows, the mission of the Marine Rifleman is:
"to close with and destroy the enemy by superior firepower and manuever."
This is a supremely challenging mission in MOUT (Military Operations in Urban Terrain) and Marines cannot afford "to take prisoners," especially the "unlawful combatant" brand.
Semper Fi!
HOOO-RAH!
Your friend knows that Ooh-Rah! doesn't begin with an "h".
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