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11-25-2004 | FrankRepublican

Posted on 11/25/2004 10:32:44 AM PST by FrankRepublican

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To: balrog666

"1) If you are running Windows XP, you need to clean out your C:\Windows\Prefetch\ directory to kill some sneaky spyware that reloads itself and to prevent accumulated debris from slowing you down. Just delete the entire contents of the directory.
2) Run the "msconfig.exe" program and clean out the Windows startup items; even disabling all of them is not too much, since you can always reactivate the ones you like."

I am running Windows 2000. Where do I clean it out? In Explore and delete the file?


101 posted on 11/25/2004 4:50:10 PM PST by FrankRepublican (Boycott NBC & their parent company General Electric for smearing the USMC)
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To: FrankRepublican
I am running Windows 2000. Where do I clean it out? In Explore and delete the file?

You're okay. As far as i know, Windows 2000 doesn't use Prefetch and doesn't use msconfig because it evolved from Windows NT.

102 posted on 11/25/2004 5:40:26 PM PST by balrog666 (The invisible and the nonexistent look very much alike.)
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To: EggsAckley

Did you add in another program just before your PC started doing this trick?


103 posted on 11/25/2004 6:20:38 PM PST by B4Ranch ((The lack of alcohol in my coffee forces me to see reality!))
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To: Xenalyte

More than one program uses the Unwise exe as a removal program. You need to make sure that you are using the one connected with the program that you want removed, ie., Ezula\UnWise.exe


104 posted on 11/25/2004 6:26:52 PM PST by B4Ranch ((The lack of alcohol in my coffee forces me to see reality!))
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To: Trinity_Tx

That's thepoint: firefox is NOT standards compliant, and it doesn't matter anyway, platforms don't react the same way to the same code: for example:
I have created a Web page with a fixed position left, top and bottom sidebar that surrounds a scrollable area. All regions resize to completely fill the browser when its dimensions are changed.

To make this work, I have a table which lays out the basic position of the main sections (left bar, top bar, bottom bar, content). I’ve placed a div tag inside the "content" area of the table, setting its width and height to 100% and adding automatic scrollbars by setting the "overflow" CSS attribute to "auto."

None of this is rocket science. Some might object to the use of tables, which in CSS circles might seem SO 1990s. I couldn’t care less. Tables are easy to use, are immediately intuitive to this old HTML hand-coder, and most important, have existed since the early days of HTML. Regardless of your preferences, there is no reason they SHOULDN’T work.

In IE, the page renders properly. In Firefox, the div tag refuses to size relative to its parent table (and doesn’t provide scrollbars), which causes the bottom toolbar to disappear past the edge of the screen.

I managed a workaround by detecting the browser and using a fixed width for the table and div tags when the browser isn’t Internet Explorer. This isn’t ideal, as the page doesn’t automatically adjust to fill the browser window, but it works. Even so, Opera still has problems, and the workaround makes no difference in Apple’s Safari browser.

Differences in scripting environment offered a few hurdles. Client-side scripting has come a long way since 1998, when I was tasked with making a Javascript tree-view work in both IE and Netscape. Since Firefox is a successor of sorts to Netscape (well, at least spawn of Netscape), that’s a good thing.

Still, there are a few gotchas. Why it would kill anyone to provide "document.all" support in scripts is beyond me, though document.GetElementByID() does the trick, if in a more verbose fashion.

In other areas, however, the replacement is not a match in terms of functionality. Like it or not, but showModalDialog is a better way to provide feature-rich user feedback windows than window.confirm (which Firefox supports, even though there is NO PUBLIC STANDARD for it). With showModalDialog, I can pop a window offering "Yes," "No," or "Cancel" buttons that requires a response before proceeding. With window.confirm, I have to craft all my questions as something to which "OK" or "Cancel" makes sense, never mind asking for three, four, or five state responses.

I’m not the only one who thinks so. Yahoo mail uses showModalDialog to generate prompts the look and feel of which matches that of the main page if the client is IE, but drops back to window.confirm for everyone else.

Unreasonable Demands
A number of respondents to my last article claimed incompatibilities didn’t matter, because if a site didn’t provide decent Firefox support, the community would apply pressure to force them to change or else face lost customers and/or bad press.

Though that may well be the case, it’s a bit like fans of a company which lays railroad tracks too narrow for most existing trains bullying engine manufacturers to alter their product to accommodate them. Would it not be so much cheaper, in the aggregate, if the tracks were the proper width in the first place?

Essentially, Firefox’s (or Opera’s, or Safari’s) refusal to implement features found in the browser used by 95% of people who access the internet means that they are insisting that hundreds of thousands of Web sites around the world tailor their sites to accommodate them. That seems an uphill battle, not to mention strange given that many who demand it are the same people who will be tasked with ensuring compatibility across all those browsers. I don’t know about you, but navigating browser idiosyncrasies isn’t my idea of a good time.

Besides, the resistance seems based on the mistaken notion that Web standards are a panacea for browser incompatibility. As noted in past articles, standards DO NOT MEAN that all implementations will have the same performance characteristics. My site now looks fine in Firefox (albeit fixed width), but looks less good in Opera, and doesn’t work at all in Safari. Both tout themselves as champions of Web standards, yet fail the consistency test, proof positive that incompatibilities aren’t dreamt up by executives bent on world domination, but are systemic to software development. As I’ve ALSO said before, there are reasons why one company or product regularly manages to dominate a particular software market.

Implementing IE’s non-standard features would make it easy for developers to target alternative browsers. It would enable developers to tap the reams of documentation which exist for Microsoft products. Ximian’s Miguel de Icaza has noted that Mono (an open source implementation of .NET) benefit from Microsoft marketing and documentation efforts. Microsoft provides EXTREMELY good documentation, a fact noted by many developers less enamored of Microsoft technology than myself.

Few have the money to create comparable documentation that is so centralized. Microsoft does. For a group whose biggest lament has been the lack of funds to market their products or pay for things that few volunteers want to do, the OBVIOUS solution would seem to be to ride the wave formed by larger competitors.

Conclusion
Firefox is certainly the best alternative browser I’ve come across. It makes Opera, its ally of convenience in a war against the common enemy Microsoft, seem downright lobotomized (cue Opera fans to burn me in effigy).

It must be admitted, though, that Firefox does have more support for "official" standards, as this link shows. I can’t say that all the missing features are equally important, and some I doubt I’d use at all. On the other hand, development environments are a bit like toolboxes. 15% of them you probably only use 0.2% of the time, but when that 0.2% comes up, it sure is great to have them.

So, as a middle ground, I’ll say Microsoft should implement more of the standard CSS attributes it lacks. As my example from the start of this article shows, though, there are areas where Firefox (and Opera and Safari, as neither browser handles my example well) could improve its treatment of workhorse CSS elements (the stuff most developers use 99% of the time). So, both have work to do.

Some in forums I’ve visited defend Firefox quirks by attacking the quality of the code it attempts to render (though, as you’ll note, my example was 100% valid HTML). In other words, "sloppy" code has no right to render properly.

That’s not only counter-productive, but ignores the reason people write HTML code in the first place. HTML is SUPPOSED to be easier to write than traditional user interfaces. HTML pages often have short lifespans, and thus HTML is supposed to be a forgiving environment which lends itself to rapid application development.

Most here would admit that IE does a better job of inferring proper behavior from incomplete or improperly-used HTML. That’s a GOOD thing, and Firefox would do well to learn the same lesson.

Lastly, as others have noted, Firefox is probably a safer security bet than IE. Don’t be lulled, however, into a false sense of complacency. Firefox certainly doesn’t use Browser Helper Objects, a technology misused by "spyware" vendors to monitor where a user goes on the internet (or, as I found on a friend’s computer, hijack it to strange locations). On the other hand, it’s not true that Firefox isn’t extensible. Binary installers (the standard way Browser Helper Objects find their way onto a Windows system) can install Firefox extensions just as easily as they install IE extensions.

In other words, the reason Firefox doesn’t face the threats IE faces is that they aren’t the browser used by 95% of consumers. That’s a bit like avoiding the threat of terrorism by moving to Pitcairn Island. It works for awhile, but if everyone has the same idea, your safety is compromised.

I LIKE the fact that IE, and Microsoft, face real competition. What I don’t like is the insistence that Web sites adapt to the upstart browser, not vice-versa. Remember, Microsoft has been down this path before, facing down a Netscape browser with a market share almost equal to that held by IE today. They chose to make IE fit the code developers produced, however non-standard, so that compatibility with IE involved little extra work. I see no reason why we shouldn’t expect the same of alternative browsers such as Firefox.


105 posted on 11/25/2004 6:59:32 PM PST by puppetz
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To: puppetz
forgot link to the page: testpage
106 posted on 11/25/2004 7:00:50 PM PST by puppetz
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To: balrog666

"As far as i know, Windows 2000 doesn't use Prefetch and doesn't use msconfig because it evolved from Windows NT."

Actually 'msconfig' works just fine under Win2000.

Just copy 'msconfig.exe' over from the Win98\Windows\System\ folder to the Win2000\WINNT\ folder.

It works fine.


107 posted on 11/25/2004 7:03:50 PM PST by chaosagent (It's all right to be crazy. Just don't let it drive you nuts.)
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To: puppetz
Here's the fix I had to add to my CSS file to get Opera and firefox to read the
/* IE5/Win incorrectly parses the "\"}"" value*/ voice-family: "\"}\""; voice-family:inherit; width:120px; } /* feeds correct length values to user agents (opera) that exhibit the parsing error exploited above yet get the CSS box model right and understand the CSS2 parent-child selector */

108 posted on 11/25/2004 7:04:57 PM PST by puppetz
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To: puppetz
heres the entire CSS file if you want to checkthe code: CSS file
109 posted on 11/25/2004 7:07:41 PM PST by puppetz
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To: puppetz
So are you John Carrol? He (You?) published your post 105 as an article at ZDNet on November 4th. I guess you are since you call it your code and don't credit him...

Or is the absolute slamming he got for it there and elsewhere from other developers why you didn't link to it?

Whatever, I'll let the 400 or so posts just there alone suffice for my answer. LOL
110 posted on 11/25/2004 8:08:39 PM PST by Trinity_Tx (Most of our so-called reasoning consists in finding arguments for going on believin as we already do)
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To: EggsAckley

Ummmmmm!!

Strange things have been happening to my PC each time I visit Drudge.com. At first I wasn't sure whether it was the drudge site. Then I paid more attention and took notes, and now you're confirming this.

Thanks for the warning.


111 posted on 11/25/2004 8:14:18 PM PST by Baraonda (“Similia similibus curantur” (like cures like).)
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To: BushCountry

"SpySweeper by Webroot"

Crap! The free ones are much, much better that this useless piece of crap.

I have had it installed since this past July and have yet not had a signature definition upgrade because there have been none available.


112 posted on 11/25/2004 8:32:43 PM PST by Baraonda (“Similia similibus curantur” (like cures like).)
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To: taxcontrol

"Another vote for Spybot Search and Destroy."

Ditto.


113 posted on 11/25/2004 8:44:41 PM PST by Baraonda (“Similia similibus curantur” (like cures like).)
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To: Wooly

"As a final note, get use to closing any Pop-Ups you get by using the Alt-F4 method instead of clicking on the Pop-Up Ad's closer."

Excellent advice. I close them this way.


114 posted on 11/25/2004 8:52:20 PM PST by Baraonda (“Similia similibus curantur” (like cures like).)
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To: Xenalyte

I have every system but 2000 NT right now. Pretty familiar will all of them 98 doesn't get attacked as much.


115 posted on 11/25/2004 9:11:27 PM PST by TheLion
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To: Lancey Howard

"I once went to Drudge and immediately found myself in a pop-up cycle where if I 'X'ed out of one ad, the other popped back up, over and over. I couldn't get rid of it until I restarted my computer."

Don't use the X box or the YES or NO buttons to close these popups/popunders. Instead use CTRL-ALT-DEL. Clicking YES may lead you to the same nefarious site as clicking NO.

When in doubt, while surfing, do not follow others' instructions, ie, CLICK HERE. No, don't click "CLIK HERE."


116 posted on 11/25/2004 9:29:32 PM PST by Baraonda (“Similia similibus curantur” (like cures like).)
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To: Trinity_Tx

I posted it was "for example" and I posted that article, with accredation before. The code IS mine FYI.


117 posted on 11/25/2004 9:50:51 PM PST by puppetz
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To: Trinity_Tx

I posted it here, with the link to the story weeks ago:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1279460/posts?page=49#49

plus its been posted AS a thread. I assumed it was a known article

the code IS mine. I'm the one of the webmasters of that domain, email me there if you don't believe me myFRname@thatdomain.com


118 posted on 11/25/2004 9:57:32 PM PST by puppetz
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To: Xenalyte

I have done such when Norton said such were there. Still didn't find them.

THANKFULLY, NOW, NORTON SAYS THEY ARE GONE!

YEA!

Perhaps my new download of AVG took care of them!

SURE GREATLY APPRECIATE YOUR KIND HELPFULNESS!

MUCH APPRECIATE.

THANKS.


119 posted on 11/25/2004 10:35:33 PM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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To: Capitalism2003

I try to do that with some regularity.

Thanks.


120 posted on 11/25/2004 10:36:03 PM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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