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1 posted on 11/25/2004 8:05:53 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

MEGA BARF!


2 posted on 11/25/2004 8:07:19 AM PST by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: neverdem

Headline should be "Nut tries to cook omelet without breaking eggs"


3 posted on 11/25/2004 8:10:05 AM PST by bvw
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To: neverdem

"Overzealousness" in the fight against terrorism is no vice.


4 posted on 11/25/2004 8:10:25 AM PST by Hank All-American (Free Men, Free Minds, Free Markets baby!)
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To: neverdem

Yeah, this approach will work, after all, it worked for the USA in Iraq, right? Remember how we played nice in Falluga?


7 posted on 11/25/2004 8:19:46 AM PST by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: neverdem

i hate the words "islamist" "fanatics" "extremists" when referring to these muslim terrorists. they are just muslims. stop trying to make it like the problem is isolated to just a few crazies.


8 posted on 11/25/2004 8:23:03 AM PST by CaptainAwesome2
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To: neverdem
But the tougher laws inevitably lean more on Muslims than on the population as a whole, ---

Perhaps that is because Muslims are more likely your local terrorist than say your Catholic, Lutheran, Methodist, Jew, Baptist etc.

9 posted on 11/25/2004 8:28:20 AM PST by Lion Den Dan
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To: neverdem
The difference between "overzealousness" and "zealousness" is like the difference between "quintessence" and essence," which as everyone knows is "quadressence." Hyperbole is misunderstood at the Times.

Nevertheless, this portion of the article deserves special emphasis, though the Times fails to mention Britain is introducing a national identity card:


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"Britain's 2001 Anti-Terrorism, Crime and Security Act allows indefinite detention of foreigners suspected of terrorist-related activities.

"In Spain, terrorism suspects can be held for up to 13 days without charge and as long as four years without trial. People in France can be imprisoned for association with terrorists....

"With an estimated 15 million to 20 million Muslims in Europe, most of whom occupy the lower rungs of their adopted societies and many of whom are sympathetic to militant causes, identifying and tracking potential terrorists is an enormous undertaking.

"European intelligence and police agencies have interrupted several major terrorist plots, from a 1999 plan to bomb the American Embassy in Paris to last month's scheme to bomb the National High Court in Madrid, Spain's main counterterrorism court. But as the Madrid train bombings and Mr. van Gogh's murder make clear, it is often people on the periphery of known networks who turn out to be among the most dangerous."



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If we did likewise -- as a supplement to our Patriot Act -- and used biometric indicators, we might be able to not only reduce security lines at airports, but also curb terrorist plots. It will never be 100%, but computers make "enormous undertakings" feasible. The Right to Life has always been held superior to the 'right' to Privacy.

10 posted on 11/25/2004 8:37:27 AM PST by OESY
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To: neverdem

There's more cracks in the Dutch multi-culturalism dike than can be found at a plumbers convention. The little Dutch boy finger trick won't work this time. Dutchmen, be prepared to get deluged with more of your own blood.


11 posted on 11/25/2004 8:41:53 AM PST by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: neverdem
Dutch Try to Thwart Terror Without Being Overzealous

Naturally.

The Dutch don't want to be denounced and condemned by the anti-haters who believe it is wrong to draw conclusions based on observable facts or that any nation deserves to preserve its culture, heritage, and people. After all, that's what nazis do.

12 posted on 11/25/2004 8:45:57 AM PST by twas
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To: neverdem

"...or risking charges of discrimination."

Just take the risk. You can do it. Yes you can. Don't be afraid. Names will never hurt you. Grow up little boys, the barbarians are at the gate.


13 posted on 11/25/2004 8:54:10 AM PST by Socratic (Death be not proud - but put on clean underwear.)
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To: neverdem

It's time for overzealousness


16 posted on 11/25/2004 9:37:22 AM PST by Vision ("When you trust in yourself, you're trusting in the same wisdom that created you")
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To: neverdem
I have walked the streets of Amsterdam with my wife and young children.

There are gangs of young Arab men everywhere. They give you a menacing look as you walk by, and they deliberately follow you to see what your reaction will be.

17 posted on 11/25/2004 9:37:58 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: neverdem

No 'overzealotry' please!

A zealot puts a head on a pike - an 'overzealot' makes a shishkebab. Extremely tasteless, imho.

;^)


19 posted on 11/25/2004 9:42:02 AM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: neverdem

<< Dutch Try to Thwart Terror Without Being Overzealous >>

Dutch refuse to accept there is evil afoot and barbarism -- and its about to murder them all and rape sexually mutilate and convert all of their women and children.


20 posted on 11/25/2004 11:44:11 AM PST by Brian Allen (I am, thank God, a 2X-blessed hyphenated American: An AMERICAN-American - AND a Dollar-a-Day FReeper)
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To: neverdem

John Kerry's sensitive war in action.

The only road to peace is total victory.


22 posted on 11/25/2004 11:59:54 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: neverdem
It is a problem faced by most European governments as radical Islam spreads across the Continent: how to arrest suspected militants before they act, without trampling on individual rights or risking charges of discrimination.

Thankfully, we have the "Patriot Act", and see our government rounding up Muslims left and right, as they should.

23 posted on 11/25/2004 12:34:18 PM PST by montag813
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To: neverdem

"But the tougher laws inevitably lean more on Muslims than on the population as a whole, exacerbating tensions that are already polarizing many European societies."

The article says 15 million muslims in Europe, many sympathetic to radicalism.

How many military and cops in Europe?

If push comes to shove, will Europe have the firepower and manpower?

Or will they plead for our help?

My wife and I lived in Europe. The Dutch were our favorite people, though not ancestors of either of us - Italian, Swedish, British.

Later in corporate management, I found the Dutch the best people to work with. (British engage American management with argument, for argument' sake).

In the history of America, Holland was the stopover for the Pilgrims, fleeing persecution in Britain.

How many muslim murderers are laying low, here in America?


24 posted on 11/25/2004 1:41:37 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: neverdem

I'm sure the Dutch voters will be overzealous when elections roll around there.


25 posted on 11/25/2004 3:25:30 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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