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The pajamahadeens are digging their own graves (FR Featured)
Toronto Star ^ | Nov. 25, 2004. 01:00 AM | ANTONIA ZERBISIAS

Posted on 11/25/2004 7:52:43 AM PST by HighWheeler

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To: HighWheeler

This only confirms my previous conclusion that the Toronto Star is unworthy for use as a sanitary napkin.

I'm mad because it's a month too late for me to include a picture of this hermaphrodite in my "scary pictures" collage for Halloween. It would be pretty hard to find one more frightening.


121 posted on 11/25/2004 9:08:29 AM PST by srm913
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To: HighWheeler

BTTT


122 posted on 11/25/2004 9:08:35 AM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: HighWheeler
"This has been a simply outstanding month," crowed a poster on http://www.freerepublic.com. "Bush won, Arafat died, we're kicking ass in Fallujah, and now this!"

Huh. They didn't even have the decency to name the Freeper. Bummer. Sounds like something I wrote.

123 posted on 11/25/2004 9:10:19 AM PST by Prime Choice (I like Democrats, too. Let's exchange recipes.)
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To: HighWheeler
My email to her:

Ms. Zerbisias,

In your interesting article about the Pajamhedin, I believe you display an error in thought which renders the entire article nugatory.

The error, if I am right, is that you understand us (I count myself among the pajamahedin, though I should more precisely be called bathrobehedin -- I don't wear pajamas) to be attacking the sources of our information. But the problem as I see it is that in the MSM (Mainstream Media) too many reporters not only bring information to public attention but also (As Mr. Jennings in a recent advertisement claimed to do) they try to tell us what it means.

AS you and I both know, editing begins when one decides THIS story, rather than THAT one, is worthy of reporting. That editing is unavoidable. But while the MSM pretend to report, they actually end up seeking to indoctrinate.

When the MSM goes back to reporting, the pajamahedin will happily return to our enjoyably bilious commentary. But when they insult our intelligence and mislead our country's electorate by slanting their reporting, we will do what we morally and legally can to give them as much trouble as they can stomach -- and more.

In related news .... ;) I think you may not understand or appreciate the pleasure we take when our typos and misspellings are pointed out. To us this indicates that we amateurs who do not have the support of proof-readers, fact-checkers, and style books do a better job of getting the news out than you professionals.

For example, you write

Which brings us to those pajamahadeen, the online brigades who claim credit for bringing those documents into question ­ and forcing Rather to apologize for his reporting. [emphasis added]
Not only do some of us (not me) CLAIM credit for bringing the Rather-gate forgeries into question, we DESERVE credit. It was unpaid amateurs or volunteers who in a few minutes did what Gungha Dan neglected or refused to do, namely look critically at the documents he adduced as evidence.

By your use of "claim credit" you suggest that the claim is, at least, questionable. No one who knows what happened could suggest that. So we are left with an uncomfortable question: Are you dishonest, merely ignorant, or some third thing?

What ever the answer to that question is, in your attempt to mock and to disparage us, you show why we are necessary and why we will not go away. Somebody has got to care about the truth. If the professionals won't, then we amateurs will set up a howling that will continue to be heard even as far away as the editorial offices of the Toronto Star. We will not only howl. We will hunt, we will pursue, and we will catch your brethren (and sistren) in their dishonesty and we will take their jobs.

One down, uncounted thousands to go.

124 posted on 11/25/2004 9:10:58 AM PST by Mad Dawg (S&W 686P, Sig - P226, P239, Beretta 92FS & 8357,Taurus snubbie, Marlin carbine in .357 magnum.)
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To: Judith Anne

If these writers were smart they would realize that forums like FR discuss their writings. Free PR and a way to expand their audience IF their ideas can survive scrutiny.

If they are fortunate, people will go from "what an interesting article" to seeking out a specific writers ideas.

Yes I do remember fair witnesses. I am constantly surprised how many Heilein readers there are here.


125 posted on 11/25/2004 9:11:33 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: HighWheeler

the Rather/60 Minutes hit piece on Bush was NOT news .. it was recycling of an old rumor .. and should have been known to be a rumor. The "unimpeachable source" was a known Bush-hater. How does that meet ANY standards?


126 posted on 11/25/2004 9:12:31 AM PST by EDINVA (a FReeper in PJ's beats a CBS anchor in a suit every time)
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To: HighWheeler
And we don't know how to deal with it.

You could try printing the news instead of propaganda pieces and opinions and calling them news.

You could get up out of the chair you're setting in and find some stories instead of waiting for it to come in over the wire from AP or Reuters.

You might even want to trying some good old fashion fair and balanced investigative reporting on both sides of the political spectrum instead of just one.

127 posted on 11/25/2004 9:14:49 AM PST by mississippi red-neck
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To: HighWheeler
We see yer stripes zebra boy and they are yellow........as in yellow journalism. When do ya plan to present an article about how you saw a soldier kill an innocent civilian, wounded begging for help, unemployed disenfranchised Sunni sad ass minimum wage earning minority ya presstitute FR lurkin POS ?

Doom on ya Presstitute !

128 posted on 11/25/2004 9:14:58 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Mad Dawg
Are you dishonest, merely ignorant, or some third thing?

ROFLMAO!!!

129 posted on 11/25/2004 9:15:02 AM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: HighWheeler
This is about the thirteenth article I've read since election day that breathlessly reports that we Conservatives are 'doomed' -- 'Oh, just you wait!'

If all of this is true, how come I'm not the one crying, wailing, complaining, making ready to migrate to New Zealand, scheduling psychiatric therapy, or comitting suicide at Ground Zero?

I just looked down at my feet: Nope, I'm not walking shakily on the edge of a precipice in mortal danger of plummeting into a fiery, lava-filled chasm of doom.

... I've got my faith in the Lord to protect me.

130 posted on 11/25/2004 9:15:07 AM PST by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi!)
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To: The_Reader_David

"The 'niche' occupied by the press in the 'ecology' of a free society is the dissemination of news (recent facts relevant to public policy) to the citizenry. When a news organization, reporter or anchor instead propagandizes by substituting opinion for fact and worse outright falsehoods (cf. D. Rather), it becomes 'less fit'. Predators (bloggers) 'cull the herd' making by
removing less fit individuals (brining down D.Rather, for instance) leaving a 'more fit' species (press).

"The MSM should be grateful for us.

"Isn't it marvelous how Darwinism can be used to explain anything if one is just creative enough?"


131 posted on 11/25/2004 9:16:19 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Writers of hate GW/Christians/ Republicans = GIM members, GAY INFECTED MEDIA!)
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To: longtermmemmory
Yes I do remember fair witnesses.

Way back when, I wanted to be one of those, when I grew up. (*sigh*)

132 posted on 11/25/2004 9:16:58 AM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Squantos
Oooops zebra "girl" vs boy (Toni vs Tony...Doh !) .... just one more plagiarizing cunning runt !
133 posted on 11/25/2004 9:18:59 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: The_Reader_David

134 posted on 11/25/2004 9:19:13 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Writers of hate GW/Christians/ Republicans = GIM members, GAY INFECTED MEDIA!)
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To: HighWheeler

The arrogance of the MSM is astounding.


135 posted on 11/25/2004 9:20:08 AM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: Squantos
Did ya see what Eaker's cookin?


136 posted on 11/25/2004 9:21:15 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: The KG9 Kid

The black knight from monty python and the holy grail must have been a democrat...


137 posted on 11/25/2004 9:21:25 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
A red X in a box ?.........:o)
138 posted on 11/25/2004 9:23:07 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: HighWheeler

"Looks like he likes to dress up as a woman"

Well, the name is AntiniA, not Antonio..
It is a female name.


139 posted on 11/25/2004 9:23:42 AM PST by AlexW
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To: Tijeras_Slim; Eaker

http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/images/mn/MNFRAfire98_7_1.jpg

Eeeeek always showing off !


140 posted on 11/25/2004 9:24:34 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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