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CFI Spokesman: United Way, Target Should Get Nothing from Christians This Christmas
Agape Press ^ | 11/24/04 | Bill Fancher and Allie Martin

Posted on 11/25/2004 5:34:53 AM PST by truthandlife

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To: gitmo
Yes, I've read your story before.

No, I never get tired of reading it.

Thanks.

May God continue to bless the work of the Salvation Army through those who continue to give.

And God bless us every one.

101 posted on 11/26/2004 10:33:43 PM PST by happygrl
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To: mamalujo

but when you are in Target complain to the management about the lack of a bell ringer at Christmas, (the squeaky wheel gets the oil).


Better yet,stay out of Target and call management and tell them why,(Money talks,BS walks)


102 posted on 11/26/2004 11:00:39 PM PST by loboinok (GUN CONTROL IS HITTING WHAT YOU AIM AT.)
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To: truthandlife
United Way, Target Should Get Nothing from Christians This Christmas

Target lost my business with their stand against the Salvation Army. The United Way lost my patronage YEARS ago when I discovered that they were funding anti-Second Amendment groups with the money they got from donations.

I was even more steamed when I heard that the United Way was funding anti-gun groups with money that had been donated after 9/11. That just burned my biscuits.

103 posted on 11/27/2004 1:18:15 AM PST by Prime Choice (I like Democrats, too. Let's exchange recipes.)
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To: gitmo
Great story. My Dad always contributed to the Salvation Army pot in front of the Post Office. He refused to give to the Red Cross. In the New London (TX)School Explosion in 1937(?)he had been drilling an oil well nearby when he heard the explosion. He shut down his rig and went with his crew to help.
About two hours later, as they were working, often with bare-hands to free the hundreds of children and teachers buried by the explosion, the salvation army truck from Shreveport, La showed up and started handing out blankets etc. for the victims and quickly set up shelters. Soon they were handing out coffee and sandwiches for the rescue workers who came from miles around.

Late in the evening someone--I think that mayor of the town-- asked my Dad if he would drive over to Tyler to pick up a Red Cross official at the airport. He agreed to do so and took the official to greet the Red Cross official
They met the plane and the Red Cross man got in and assuming that my Dad, who was still in his work clothes was just a flunky talked freely. My Dad
got an earful. The Red Cross would come in only if $x000 were raised first. The "mayor" said he would see what he could do, and sure enough the money was raised. But my Dad never forgot these events. That is why he always gave generously to the Salvation Army and not a dime to the Red Cross.
104 posted on 11/27/2004 1:28:22 AM PST by RobbyS (JMJ)
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To: buffyt
My husband donates to United Way at work through payroll deduction.

Still?
Why?

105 posted on 11/27/2004 3:32:26 AM PST by ppaul
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To: LoudRepublicangirl
Speaking of businesses and charities to boycot can anyone give me info on Starbucks? I heard something disturbing about them slighting the troops.

A viscious rumor that won't die.
Urban Legend.

Everytime someone posts a story on Free Republic about Starbucks supposedly dissin' the troops, it gets pulled within minutes. The stories aren't true, but the e-mails keep being sent, in one version or another, and some uninformed FReeper will keep posting them until the rumor fizzles out.

106 posted on 11/27/2004 3:39:07 AM PST by ppaul
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To: Casloy
Target is a private business. They may ban any group, or allow any group they choose. Target has tried to explain that they banned the Salvation Army Christmas bellringers because "too many groups were asking to be able to solicit donations." That's garbage. The Salvation Army is probably the oldest and most credible charity out there. The bulk of their donations IS NOT spent on administration and goes directly to aiding people in crisis. AND, they are traditionally associated with the Christmas shopping season. It's an established TRADITION. What the customer relations person won't tell you is that Target has been the target of a concerted smear campaign against the Salvation Army by radical homosexual activists because the Salvation Army is a lone Christian organization which has not buckled under pressure to change its hiring policies and hire openly avowed homosexuals.


107 posted on 11/27/2004 3:48:49 AM PST by ppaul
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To: Atlantic Friend

BTTT


108 posted on 11/27/2004 3:49:34 AM PST by ppaul
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To: Rakkasan1

You nailed it!
Thanks for the links.


109 posted on 11/27/2004 3:56:37 AM PST by ppaul
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To: gitmo
In Grand Forks North Dakota in 1979, during the fourth highest flood of the Red River of the North, the Salvation Army folks sought us out while we were patrolling the dikes in the wee hours (3AM) in the rain and made sure we had hot food to eat and hot chocolate. I'll never forget that.

Within a week, one of the Red Cross' 'disaster relief vans' had broadsided my car, and totalled it. (they failed to yield the right of way and were doing 50 or better in a 25 mph zone). Their insurance people didn't even want to pay for my car.

Guess who gets my donations?

110 posted on 11/27/2004 4:12:49 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (I'm from North Dakota and I'm all FOR Global Warming! Bring it ON!)
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To: ppaul

I had heard this from some lady while I was at the mechanics last Saturday. I didn't think it was right because I had heard that Starbucks does support the troops by furnishing coffee. I am relieved though since I do love their coffee and hate to add it to my list of things to boycott.


111 posted on 11/27/2004 5:28:35 AM PST by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: CindyDawg
This is from United Way

Do community-based United Ways provide funds to Planned Parenthood?

"Nationally in 1999, local United Ways distributed an estimated $3 million to Planned Parenthood agencies.
In 2000-2001, United Way organizations collectively raised $3.91 billion. Less than one percent of total funds
are distributed to Planned Parenthood. Of that total, approximately one third of these dollars were donor
designated to the agency by individuals."

But they claim not one cent of their contributions went toward abortions.
Accounting BS is all it is.

112 posted on 11/27/2004 9:15:38 AM PST by trickyricky
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To: truthandlife

I gave to the UW last year and had the donation sent to the Boise Rescue Mission. This year, it became much clearer the company means what it says when they don't require you to give to UW, so I chose not to give and we'll Bill Pay the Boise Rescue Mission with my home computer.


113 posted on 11/27/2004 9:44:12 AM PST by Keyes2000mt (http://adamsweb.us/blog Conservative Truth for Idaho)
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To: Scales

I was scratching my head over that one. But I was glad the Salvation Army rescued him from a fool.


114 posted on 11/27/2004 9:47:23 AM PST by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: Atlantic Friend
"But couldn't Target choose which groups it would accept on its premises, and which ones he would turn off"

Might be real hard to do in our PC world. Discrimination and all ya know.

115 posted on 11/27/2004 9:59:33 AM PST by jpsb
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To: ppaul
What the customer relations person won't tell you is that Target has been the target of a concerted smear campaign against the Salvation Army by radical homosexual activists because the Salvation Army is a lone Christian organization which has not buckled under pressure to change its hiring policies and hire openly avowed homosexuals.

Do you have a reference for that?

116 posted on 11/27/2004 10:11:12 AM PST by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: Jorge
" I like Target. And I don't see this as a reason to stop shopping there."

I agree, it is not the fault of Target that the ACLU would be all over their butts for allowing SA but not allowing NMBLA. Blame PCism and it's advocate the ACLU. Instead of writing nasty letter to ACLU 's victim (Target) try writing nasty letters (US Postal) to the ACLU instead and send a copy to your representatives in Congress.

117 posted on 11/27/2004 10:17:39 AM PST by jpsb
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To: gitmo
LINK: http://www.sovo.com/2004/11-19/view/actionalert/army.cfm

Salvation scrooge
Annual Salvation Army red kettle campaign protested by PFLAG, dumped by Target

By VAN GOWER
Nov. 19, 2004

Bell-ringers and red kettles are a familiar site around retail centers each holiday season. But some activists hope to put a dent in the collections of the Salvation Army for what they say are the religious charity's anti-gay policies.

For the fourth consecutive year, the PFLAG chapter in Genesee County, Mich., will protest the Salvation Army red kettle program, hoping their supporters will drop enough dollar bill-sized protest notes in the kettles to make an impact in the fund-raising, which brought in $93 million last year.

This isn't a project the national office is sponsoring, but we're happy to direct people to chapters that are participating, says Ron Schlittler, interim executive director of PFLAG's national office in Washington, D.C.

The Salvation Army's red kettle campaign officially begins Thanksgiving Day, but local chapters may start earlier, according to the organization. In Atlanta, the effort kicked off Wednesday.

The Genesee County PFLAG chapter, which started the protest campaign in 2001, will again distribute the notes on its web site. The bills read, I would have donated ____ Dollar(s), BUT the Salvation Army decision to discriminate against gay and lesbian employees prevents my donation now and in the future. Other PFLAG chapters have joined the effort.

Schlittler says the grassroots nature of the campaign prevents PFLAG from tallying the amount of participants.

The Salvation Army says the protest has little, if any, impact, according to Maj. George Hood, national community relations and development secretary for Salvation Army.

I'm not even aware of any protests that took place last year, Hood says. Nobody reported any significant impact at all.

But the charity took a significant hit this week when gay-friendly retailer Target banned the Salvation Army from soliciting at its stores across the country, although store officials said they are only bringing the organization inline with its corporate policy banning soliciting at stores.

The discount chain granted an exception to the Salvation Army in the past, but decided to revoke it this year after receiving multiple requests from other non-profits that wanted to solicit funds at Target stores, according to company officials.

The Salvation Army offers health benefits to married heterosexual employees, their spouses, and children. Single employees are also covered, but no coverage is extended to domestic partners, regardless of sexual orientation, according to Hood.

Because the Salvation Army is a church and charitable organization, Hood says, it stands firm in its fundamental belief that homosexuality is not condoned in Biblical scripture.

We have no stance against the gay community whatsoever, Hood says. There is a misinterpretation about what we are doing or what we are not doing.

In 2001, the Salvation Army revoked an earlier decision to offer DP benefits in its West Coast division. Prior to reversing the decision, the nation's largest charity was inundated with complaints from outraged supporters who equated the policy with an endorsement of same-sex marriage.

That same year, the Washington Post leaked a 79-page internal memo from the Salvation Army that claimed President Bush made a firm commitment to honor the organization's request to be exempt under Bush's faith-based initiative from state and local laws banning discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.

They're entitled to their position, but I think the issue becomes when it's a matter of employment or public service, Schlittler says. Then the question [arises] about discrimination in employment practices.

Since 2001, Soulforce, a national interfaith group that supports gays, took part in a similar protest-voucher campaign, but does not plan to take part this year, according to Laura Montgomery Rutt, Soulforce communications director

118 posted on 11/27/2004 10:29:53 AM PST by ppaul
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To: ppaul

Thanks for the link and the post. That makes Target's actions even more egregious.


119 posted on 11/27/2004 10:43:04 AM PST by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: truthandlife

i've been anti-United Way for fourteen years now... Target is on my boycott list... we donate to the Salvation Army--i like it more than Good Will...


120 posted on 11/27/2004 10:46:49 AM PST by latina4dubya
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