Posted on 11/24/2004 2:06:56 PM PST by quidnunc
"Moslems believe that Islam is the final stage of the religion that originated with the Jews and was modified by the followers of Jesus. Islam is the end of the road, and there is no room for change." Don't Mormon also believe this ... but without wanting to murder millions of non-Mormons?
So, you're saying that it is not widely believed in the Middle East and elsewhere that elements of the American government perpetrated 9/11 as an excuse to wage war on Muslims?
Are you saying that this conspiracy theory is not widely circulated and believed.
Is this the plot of ground upon which you're making your stand?
I would question the accuracy of the polls, given the nature of most governments in the Islamic world, and what happens to people who don't toe the line.
That being said there is a tendancy in the Islamic world to believe conspiracy theories.
I'd also like to see the poll where that question was asked.
If it's true how do we explain the last elections in Indonesia and Malaysia? Or for that matter what's happening in Iraq?
Epilepsy has nothing to do with mental health, personality disorder, or intelligence. It is possible that other conditions may coexist, but never a given that they will.
I am 62, and old enough to have known people that had been institutionalized and sterilized, in spite of having no intellectual disability, and the condition not being inherited in the first place, so You'd best believe it is a touchy subject. I know I'm off topic, thanks for the apologies and explanations, just try harder to sound sincere.
I would question the accuracy of the polls, given the nature of most governments in the Islamic world, and what happens to people who don't toe the line. That being said there is a tendancy in the Islamic world to believe conspiracy theories. I'd also like to see the poll where that question was asked. If it's true how do we explain the last elections in Indonesia and Malaysia? Or for that matter what's happening in Iraq?
You don't need a poll.
A Frenchman wrote a book to that effect which became a runaway best seller in Europe.
This same book has now sold 400,000 copies in the Middle East, a region so book-adverse that sales of just a few thousand copies will put a book on the best-seller list.
This is one reason why so few books are translated into Arabic, they won't sell enough copies to make the effort profitable.
Sorry. I find it difficult to sound anything but bitter when discussing mohammad. In his case, the combination of his cunning and evil intent with apparent brain disfunction made him supremely dangerous. I am not implying this applies to everyone. May I suggest you read the biography.
Essentially, I think you're right.
However, I don't believe we'll be able to do it alone, if at all.
I think God Almighty will have to weigh in on it. And, HE WILL, in a BIG way--converting those with good hearts truly seeking God--and other options for others.
It's interesting to see that juxtaposed with Don Knuth and so many others who were SO EAGER to promote Islam as a 'multi-culturalism' a few decades ago, in everything from computer science, to the history of math and science. The Europeans were a bunch of backward Neanderthals. Boo - Catholicism. Evil Christianity. All sweetness and light came from the 'advanced civilization' of Islam. And these 'science' promoters would specifically mention - Islam, not just Arabia or Persia. Islam. That was the cause for such great civilization, etc.
It was in fact that the west was conquered so easily. And western math and thought was preserved before Islam could consolidate its gains. It took centuries. Once it did, culture failed and was replaced only by militancy and the culture of the hun. Even that fell to Ferd and Isabella, just before Columbus set out. But these PC 'scientists' and 'empiricists' could never put aside their PC agenda long enough to give credit where it was due.
I think that's why even in Iran that so many are eager to return to more of a secularism under the Shaw. They miss the economy and technology. But they want a genuine freedom, as well. It's the freedom, DU. The true freedom was had at that time, in those 'dark ages' of Christendom. That's what was being defended against the hun. That's what won the day until destroyed from within, first by Protestantism, and then Revolution without God, and then Communism/socialism to complete that destruction. Now 'euro', for ex, is ruined. Even the institutional church is ruined. And the 'blue' counties threaten the American counties, dubbed 'red'. And Islam is conquering again, even favored in gubment schools which simultaneously seek to BAN any mention of Christ, Our Lord. It's a war on so many fronts, with traitors unpunished and shaking their self-righteous fingers at those who would dare defend freedom, itself. And yet the traitors melt away, as if they had been nothing. And the ice melts. And the darkness gives way to day. And so on. FR is a good example of people who fight on, even as it looks desperate. Trust in God.
BTTT
This same book has now sold 400,000 copies in the Middle East, a region so book-adverse that sales of just a few thousand copies will put a book on the best-seller list.
I did say
"That being said there is a tendancy in the Islamic world to believe conspiracy theories."
"Yes, most Moslems believed that the Westerners would slaughter thousands of their own people just to provide an excuse for a war on Islam."
I really hope you'er not going to try to defend this..."statement".
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