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Why Islam Really Hates the West
Strategy Page ^ | November 24, 2004 | Unattributed

Posted on 11/24/2004 2:06:56 PM PST by quidnunc

Moslems are beginning to change their attitudes towards Islamic terrorism. That’s a major step forward in the war against terror. In the aftermath of the September 11, 2001 attacks, opinion surveys throughout the Moslem world revealed that a third of Moslems thought the attacks were justified, and two thirds believed that no Moslems were involved. Moreover, two thirds believed that the attacks were carried out by Western intelligence services (those of Israel, the United States and Britain being most often mentioned.) This thinking led to the belief that the American “war on terror” was, in reality, a premeditated war on Islam. Yes, most Moslems believed that the Westerners would slaughter thousands of their own people just to provide an excuse for a war on Islam.

But there are two other aspects to this that often get overlooked. First, in most Moslem countries, the general attitude towards science and reason is subordinate to fantasy and speculation. A quick glance at Western media would remind us that fantasy and speculation is alive and well here as well. But in Moslem nations, fantasy and speculation is dominant in the news. This was long a secret known only to a few diplomats and sociologists (and the U.S. Army Special Forces, which has more Arab speakers than the State Department.) But the Internet now provides English language versions of media in Moslem nations, and this allows anyone to go see for themselves just how different the news reporting and interpretation is over there.

Finally, we have the Moslem clergy. These guys are the major source of hatred for the West in the Moslem world. The reason is simple. Most Moslems, especially young ones, when exposed to Western culture, begin to question their faith. Islam (which means “submission”) demands blind acceptance of Islamic religious practices and beliefs. Moslems believe that Islam is the final stage of the religion that originated with the Jews and was modified by the followers of Jesus. Islam is the end of the road, and there is no room for change. …


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: clashofcivilizations; islam; lunaticmuslims; napalminthemorning; paranoidmuslims; religionofpeace; schizophrenicmuslims; thewest; wot
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To: rocksblues

Yeah, the Jews and Christians are armed to the teeth now!


21 posted on 11/24/2004 2:33:26 PM PST by Edgerunner (The left ain't right. Hand me that launch pickle...)
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To: tiamat

It's relevent, sorry you took an exception to it. Jeez, it's not like I attacked every epileptic.

Talk about oversensitivity. Bit of PC thinking imo. I am not PC. Never will be. But I'll apologize.

Again sorry. (shrug)


22 posted on 11/24/2004 2:34:36 PM PST by Stopislamnow (This tagline a victim of humorless busybodies.)
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To: Stopislamnow
They forget the fact that the Koran is a vile, evil book written by a insane epileptic pedophilic murderer.

You left out Muhammad's hallucinations (as in LSD) when he received his evil Allah messages.

23 posted on 11/24/2004 2:34:38 PM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations)
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To: bikepacker67
Prophet of Doom Islam's Terrorist Dogma in Muhammad's Own Words by Craig Winn ... Free Online .pdf Version .. {Link} ...

24 posted on 11/24/2004 2:34:42 PM PST by Petes Sandy Girl (~*~ W 2 ... The Legacy! ~*~)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

i would say long nights tending sheep in the desert is another explanation.


25 posted on 11/24/2004 2:34:42 PM PST by FreedomSurge
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To: ken5050

I'm buying stock in batteries...plastics are dead:)


26 posted on 11/24/2004 2:38:17 PM PST by Cornpone ((Aging Warrior))
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To: Stopislamnow

I didn't see it as any kind of slur against folks with epilepsy, either. Man! Some folks are so hypersensitive.

There used to be an awesome guy here on the FR who would post (before taglines): "A day without Clinton is like a day without leprosy."

A few posters shed some projectile tears in his direction for that.


27 posted on 11/24/2004 2:38:20 PM PST by broadsword (When Islam creeps into a human society, oppression, misogyny and terror come hard on its heels.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
'What the Hell does Epilepsy have to do with evil?"

Somewhat like the ancient Greeks who did not understand mental illness (brain disfunctions)either, the arabs believed sufferers were 'touched by the gods and destined for greatness' therefor it was predicted, from an early age, mohammad would 'do great deeds'. It is documented from arabic sources that mohammad was treated with aromatherapy and kept in a dark room, covered with wet cloths when he suffered from fits.
Sources also allude to numerous schizoid episodes. He himself was afraid of the voices he heard in his head...his own followers described him as jinn possessed.
The biography of the 'prophet' THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD provides original arabic sources. See tagline for link to book on pdf.
28 posted on 11/24/2004 2:50:35 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Click Fred Nerks for link.)
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To: Fitzcarraldo
They were manageable until the age of oil the Internet/TV/Airplanes/Playboy/Hell Everything that came along in the west.

All joking aside, they were manageable until Hiltary Clinton and Madeline Not So Bright shot their mouths off on their Mideast tours about womens rights, female voting and Allah forbid driving in Saudi Arabia.

That just pisses off all of the Islamic boys.

29 posted on 11/24/2004 2:58:03 PM PST by Major_Risktaker
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To: tiamat

Unless your husband spends lots of time sitting in a cave listening to the voice of an arch angel called Gabriel I would say you have nothing to worry about.


30 posted on 11/24/2004 3:03:39 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Click Fred Nerks for link.)
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To: quidnunc
"Most Moslems, especially young ones, when exposed to Western culture, begin to question their faith. Islam (which means “submission”) demands blind acceptance of Islamic religious practices and beliefs."


In this statement, define "Western culture" as Liberty, democracy, and free markets. An historical example of this is how the Japanese culture changed after its conquering by the allies and forced change of government after WWII. The same thing is happening now in Afghanistan and Iraq. It will continue to happen across the Arab world and some of their leaders know this. The ones who don't know it yet soon will.
31 posted on 11/24/2004 3:04:26 PM PST by spinestein (Trade liberty for security. Lose both. Deserve neither.)
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To: Stopislamnow

I'll accept the apology, but I AM sensitive about it.

There are a LOT of dumb assumptions people have about epilepsy.

It's a thing that affects our family in a profound way.

NOTHING "PC" about setting the record straight.


Have a good and safe Happy Thanksgiving.


32 posted on 11/24/2004 3:15:51 PM PST by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno-World!")
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To: Fred Nerks

He does worse things than that.

He plays "Silent Hill".

;-)


33 posted on 11/24/2004 3:17:15 PM PST by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno-World!")
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To: spinestein

Muslim chidren in Australia are coming home from 'kuffar' schools holding hands with 'kuffar' boy/girlfriends, asking for Christmas presents, chocolate Easter eggs...and watching cartoons (idol worship) the imams are preaching in the mosques that 'kuffar' society is polluting the 'purity' of islam and suggesting if the muslims here want to retain their 'purity' they should consider returning to an islamic country. That's the best news I have heard in a long long time. The imams know the danger of losing control over the next generation. Somewhere in the koran it states that mohammad said (promised?) if the infidel is exposed to islam for a period of 40 days the infidel will absorb islam and willingly convert. Sorry mooselimbs; mohammad lied about that as he lied about everything else.
Islam loses more mooselimbs in the West than it can ever hope to convert IMHO.


34 posted on 11/24/2004 3:20:49 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Click Fred Nerks for link.)
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To: quidnunc
Why Islam Really Hates the West

We have better hair.

35 posted on 11/24/2004 3:22:26 PM PST by Boiler Plate
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To: bikepacker67
We're gonna need to kill 1,000,000,000 of them before the threat is over

Well, at the rate we are going, it will take until 2804 to do that. I don't see that happening.

36 posted on 11/24/2004 3:24:14 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

Now if we could just figure out a way to 'kill' mohammad the rest would be easy.


37 posted on 11/24/2004 3:29:16 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Click Fred Nerks for link.)
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To: Fred Nerks
Unless your husband spends lots of time sitting in a cave listening to the voice of an arch angel called Gabriel I would say you have nothing to worry about.

As a self appointed activist...acting on behalf of the Heavenly Host...I must object...

It has not been established that the Archangel Gabriel ever spoke to Moe...but 'WE' contend it was a demon...a member of the 'unholy' hosts that was posing as a Heavenly host...and commited a hellacious fraud...

Moe's child bride...rather one of Moe's child bride's convinced Moe that a member of the Heavenly host was buzzing in his ear and giving him the Koran...Originally Moe himself thought he was being attacked by a demon and the buzzing in his ear was insanity..We believe Moe's original assumption was correct...and he should not have listend to his child bride who was also under the mediation of an unholy spirit.

imo

38 posted on 11/24/2004 3:36:13 PM PST by joesnuffy ("The merit of our Constitution was, not that it promotes democracy, but checks it." Horatio Seymour)
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To: Major_Risktaker

Seriously, without oil, even the shieks would be living in tents and herding goats.


39 posted on 11/24/2004 3:36:19 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Stopislamnow

When I was 11 years old, the front wheel dropped off My bike going down a bridge. I woke up looking at the oil pan on a Cadillac. I had intermittent siezures for almost 30 years. It could happen to Your Kid, it could happen to You. Many times it just goes away, or can be controlled by surgery or medication, unlike stupidity, which usually prevails throughout life. Don't give Me the "oversensitivity" thing, or the PC crap, it has nothing to do with either, IMO!


40 posted on 11/24/2004 3:41:45 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER
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