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To: thor76
And if our priest becomes a heretic/apostate it is possible for his consecrations to be valid in theory, but as a practical reality they may not be. If he does believe in the mass as sacrifice, and cannot project the intention of hte church upon the sacrament.....it dont work!

Wrong. This is heresy. If the priest has expressed the intention to "Do what the Church does" and never retracted it, his internal disposition is incidental. Sinner, apostate, heretic..his words of consecration confect the sacrament. It is Christ who acts, not the priest.

You need to learn some elementary sacramental theology, thorski. Your ignorance is showing.

139 posted on 11/24/2004 8:13:24 PM PST by sinkspur ("It is a great day to be alive. I appreciate your gratitude." God Himself.)
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To: sinkspur
You keep saying "never retracted it".

Let's say there's a priest who no longer believes the doctrines of the Church, specifically regarding transubstantiation. He has no intention of consecrating the Eucharist because he doesn't believe it is possible, or real. Isn't that a "retraction" even if he doesn't formally announce it?

Now let's suppose, not that this could ever happen /sarcasm, this priest becomes an active agent for satan, wouldn't he be more effective as such if everyone in his parish etc. was unaware that he secretly retracted his intention?

152 posted on 11/24/2004 8:42:49 PM PST by murphE (fight terrorism in the womb END ABORTION NOW)
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