[HipShot]

"Let the Russians and Ukrainians sort this out themselves. We need to stay far, far away."

Sorry, no can do. The Ukraine is an active ally in the WOT. They have fought alongside our men in Iraq.

That isolationist logic was attempted when the blitzkrieg took down free nations. The ensuing 50 years should not be forgotten so quickly.

Ivan has no place in their free election. He has no place in Georgia or Belarus either, but is making moves there as well.

Who is going to stop this? If they ask for help we should deliver without reserve.

[RichardW]

What should we support them with? Troops? This is not our problem. Let the Europeans deal with it. We should get back to what our founding fathers told us about foreign entanglements. If not now, when? Don't we have enough on our plate already?

I don't like what I am seeing there but I don't like a lot of what goes on in the world. But we can't be everywhere trying to straighten out all the wrongs in the world. We had a vital interest in Iraq but we have no vital interests in Ukraine so far as I can tell.