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To: b2stealth

This is one time I think we should stay out of it. The Europeans need to deal with this if it needs dealing with. We have bigger fish to fry than whether or not they have a perfect democracy. I don't see communism coming back in a Soviet Union. I don't think you can put the toothpaste back in the tube. Besides we need Putin when he is fighting alongside us against Al Queda.


22 posted on 11/24/2004 9:02:03 AM PST by RichardW
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>We have bigger fish to fry than whether or not they have a

Islamic terrorism was invented by Soviets..

>perfect democracy. I don't see communism coming back in a
>Soviet Union. I don't think you can put the toothpaste

Oh, YOU WATCH PUTIN..

>back in the tube. Besides we need Putin when he is >fighting alongside us against Al Queda.

It's like fighting with Hitler or Sadam gainst Al Queda..


26 posted on 11/24/2004 9:04:30 AM PST by b2stealth
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To: RichardW

Don’t be naïve, Putin don’t fight with Al-Quaida, he fights only with Chechnya’s nation.


27 posted on 11/24/2004 9:05:30 AM PST by Lukasz (Terra Polonia Semper Fidelis!)
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To: RichardW
We probably will unless condi engages in a little arm twisting later on but it pays to remember that Putin did his best to arm Saddaam with basically anything he wanted until the day we took over there and he is still sitting on a bunch of nucs, I take him very seriously.
28 posted on 11/24/2004 9:06:21 AM PST by keysguy (Trust the media as far as you can throw them)
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To: RichardW

"The Europeans need to deal with this if it needs dealing with."

If???? "The Europeans"???? Since when have they "dealt with" anything????

"... bigger fish to fry." Bigger than the relationship between Russia and its nearest large neighbor????

"I don't see communism coming back in a Soviet Union."
Why not, pray tell???? The idea never dies, and Putin is trying to reconstitute the Soviet Union. If he wins this one in Ukraine, he'll go a long way toward that.

As for Putin as an ally ... what about his connections to Iraq and Iran????

The naivete of FReepers in this discussion about the Ukraine situation is an embarrassment.


32 posted on 11/24/2004 9:12:14 AM PST by California Patriot
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To: RichardW

You are correct! Thank God the Ukranians do not have the lobbying power of the Jews or the Cubans.


86 posted on 11/24/2004 10:27:48 AM PST by nathanbedford
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To: RichardW

"Besides we need Putin when he is fighting alongside us against Al Queda".

Right, while he's shipping arms to Iran and anyone else who wants them. He AIN'T our friend and never has been.


89 posted on 11/24/2004 10:28:25 AM PST by dljordan
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To: RichardW
Yes and no.

The terrorism threat is large, and they have a potential for a lot of damage, but a rebuilt Russian Empire would probably bring back the cold war.

We as a nation need to keep an eye on this. If it goes down like the Hungry riots did way back when, we will know the Bear is once again looking at western Europe.
143 posted on 11/24/2004 11:23:25 AM PST by redgolum (Molon labe)
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To: RichardW
The Europeans need to deal with this if it needs dealing with.

Why? The Ukrainians have helped us out in Iraq, do they not deserve the same support from the USA? Anyway, the US has the military and the economic muscle to scare off the Russians, the EU doesn't.

I don't see communism coming back in a Soviet Union.

Maybe not, but totalitarianism is coming back under good old Putin.

Besides we need Putin when he is fighting alongside us against Al Queda.

Yes, Russia is building a nuclear power plant for the Iranians. Al Qaeda will get their first A-bomb courtesy of Putin. What a great ally in the WOT he is.

157 posted on 11/24/2004 11:51:58 AM PST by David Hunter
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To: RichardW
"This is one time I think we should stay out of it."Stay out of it as we did in in Budapest, and Prague, and Warsaw???

Stalin is back in Moscow. Mao is back in Beijing. The Ayatollah is back in Tehran. Gutless wonders run the UN. Chirac-in-the-sack is in Muslim Paris. SchrODOR is in Muslim Germany. Gutless leftists run Spain. Norway and Sweden are undergoing an Islamic swarm. And the Dutch are just waking up.....and you say THIS ONE TIME WE SHOULD STAY OUT OF IT? We have been sitting with our thumbs in our "democrat" doing nothing while the world sets up for a World War baby!

President Bush, State Dept and CIA better get on the stick! Outcome management is a priority right now.

213 posted on 11/25/2004 3:23:07 AM PST by NetValue (Trust the cobra before you trust the liberal.)
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