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1 posted on 11/24/2004 6:31:55 AM PST by NYer
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2 posted on 11/24/2004 6:32:36 AM PST by NYer ("Blessed be He who by His love has given life to all." - final prayer of St. Charbel)
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Does the fact that "I" am offended by athiests and what the ACLU does, mean anything, or is it an exclusive "libs only" kind of thing?


3 posted on 11/24/2004 6:35:29 AM PST by digger48
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The ACLU is a terrorist organization which does not use firearms or explosives.


4 posted on 11/24/2004 6:35:51 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, AIr Force, Pray for all our military in hostile territory.)
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The ACLU of San Diego also criticized the legislation calling it "political gamesmanship".

so how is 'political gamesmanship' different from 'LEGAL GAMESMANSHIP'?

seems to me that the political gamesmanship just torpedoed the legal gamesmanship below the waterline!

5 posted on 11/24/2004 6:37:20 AM PST by Samurai_Jack (John Kerry for President Memorabilia for sale! - CHEAP @ www.johnkerry.com)
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Phillip Paulson needs to understand that he and the ACLU hasn't even begun to see the "Jihad Jesus Republicans" yet. The anti-Christians and ACLU will be under constant attack until they are eliminated from political interference.

Christians have rights, too.

6 posted on 11/24/2004 6:38:59 AM PST by TommyDale
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Phillip Paulson, the atheist who mounted a successful 15- year legal battle to remove the cross with support from the ACLU, told the San Diego Union-Tribune, "Jihad Jesus Republicans need to understand that the separation of church and state has kept this country from getting into religious wars."

What a moronic dork nutcase! This guy needs serious psychiatric help. Most Americans are Christians. The inability to deal with this is the sign of deep abnormality and mental disturbance.

7 posted on 11/24/2004 6:39:11 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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Phillip Paulson, the atheist who mounted a successful 15- year legal battle to remove the cross with support from the ACLU, told the San Diego Union-Tribune, "Jihad Jesus Republicans need to understand that the separation of church and state has kept this country from getting into religious wars."

Paulson's religion is a lack of religion.

Therefore, any attempt he makes to change laws mixes his religion with the state, and that is forbidden.

Ergo, he must go into his bedroom and get under his covers and eat chocolate.

8 posted on 11/24/2004 6:40:52 AM PST by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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San Diego attorney Charles LiMandri, Director of the Law Center's western regional office who has led the effort to save the Mt. Soledad cross, called the congressional action "an act of God".

LOL!!!! A double whammy to the atheists. You've got to love it!!!

9 posted on 11/24/2004 6:43:13 AM PST by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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Clinton designated half of Utah as a national monument with the stroke of the pen (...law of the land,... kinda cool). Why can't President Bush simply designate this national monument as a national monument?


10 posted on 11/24/2004 6:43:39 AM PST by gridlock (The Republican Party is a stupid party no more...)
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There are some legitimate First Amendment issues raised here, though. The crosses at Arlington Cemetary each memorialize a particular individual and represent that individual's faith. Thus, there are also Stars of David at Arlington, and I should think that if a Moslem or someone of another faith were buried there, they'd be able to put up a symbol of their faith over the grave. So there's no "establishment"; all faiths are treated equally.

This memorial, however, can easily be construed to honor Christian veterans only. Are there similar memorials that are or will be maintained by the Federal government for veterans of other faiths?


12 posted on 11/24/2004 6:44:53 AM PST by RonF
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Would Mr. Paulsen be satisfied if Congress simply designated the cross as the letter "t" and an advertisement for Sesame Street?


13 posted on 11/24/2004 6:47:12 AM PST by jigsaw (God Bless Our Troops.)
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So, this guy spends 15 years trying to destroy an affirmation that some of us believe in God, which has no power to harm anyone, and he calls us "Jihadists". What irony.


16 posted on 11/24/2004 7:06:37 AM PST by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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I live in the area..

They've been fighting over this for years. These people make me SO mad.. I want to smack them around and tell them that if the cross offends them, don't freaking look at it. How hard is that?

There was a similar fight over a cross on top of Mt. Helix, south of Mt. Soledad. I don't recall how that one came out but the cross is still there.

I'm so glad the cross will remain as well.

Now if we can just get "December Nights" or whatever they're calling it now changed back to "Christmas on the Prado".

..oh yeah, and I'm not even religious (agnostic).


19 posted on 11/24/2004 7:41:47 AM PST by Trampled by Lambs ("Making Al Gore regret inventing the internet, one post at a time")
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The liberal use of the moral equivalent (comparison) of terrorist Muslims who have murdered millions in the name of Allah throughout history...aka Jihad... and Christians who only want what this nation was designed for....honoring God and His Christ...

While ignoring of course the murders of tens if not hundreds of millions of innocents by
Atheist Marxists...and 40 + million unborn American citizens by their abortion aka 'right to choice' friends and fellow travelers...

Liberals what a piece of work they are and what a body count they've racked up...

imo
20 posted on 11/24/2004 7:48:44 AM PST by joesnuffy ("The merit of our Constitution was, not that it promotes democracy, but checks it." Horatio Seymour)
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A few years back, the Taliban were criticized for destroying statues of Buddha. These statues had obvious historical and cultural value, regardless of what one's religious beliefs are.

Why can't this cross be designated as having such a value? Some crosses, because of their history and the character they give to an area, have a cultural value. They're landmarks and tourist sites. You don't have to be Christian or honor the cross to realize that.


25 posted on 11/24/2004 10:45:48 AM PST by UnbornChild
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Phillip Paulson, the atheist who mounted a successful 15- year legal battle to remove the cross with support from the ACLU, told the San Diego Union-Tribune, "Jihad Jesus Republicans need to understand that the separation of church and state has kept this country from getting into religious wars."

Mr. Paulson has not improved his state of ignorance and stupidity for 15 years.

As an ATHEIST,he should be FOREWARNED that when he dies, HE CANNOT BE GIVEN A CHRISTIAN BURIAL. It "SAYS SO IN THE CONSTITUTION" , just as clearly as it says there must be a separation of CHURCH AND STATE.

26 posted on 11/24/2004 10:59:23 AM PST by UCANSEE2
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Phillip Paulson, the atheist who mounted a successful 15- year legal battle to remove the cross with support from the ACLU, told the San Diego Union-Tribune, "Jihad Jesus Republicans need to understand that the separation of church and state has kept this country from getting into religious wars."

Mr. Paulson has not improved his state of ignorance and stupidity for 15 years.

As an ATHEIST,he should be FOREWARNED that when he dies, HE CANNOT BE GIVEN A CHRISTIAN BURIAL. It "SAYS SO IN THE CONSTITUTION" , just as clearly as it says there must be a separation of CHURCH AND STATE.

27 posted on 11/24/2004 11:00:13 AM PST by UCANSEE2
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I am sure glad that the cross is going to stay. I remember when I was alittle girl visiting my grandparents, I would look up at that hill and see the cross standing there. What a beautiful sight it was!


29 posted on 11/24/2004 2:34:04 PM PST by navygal ( I neutered my cat, now he is a liberal.)
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I see a future Scrappleface article on the banning of the letter "t" being thwarted by a group of fanatical Christians.


30 posted on 11/24/2004 2:40:40 PM PST by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has never led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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"Jihad Jesus Republicans need to understand that the separation of church and state
has kept this country from getting into religious wars."


IF folks in the ACLU think that losing one of their waste-of-the-USA's-time
legal battles is "war"...they'd just as well leave for Canada.
33 posted on 11/24/2004 2:50:04 PM PST by VOA
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