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To quote Reagan, "There he goes again..."

I did NOT compare you to Islamo-Fascists.

Again, I will not let you try to box me into the "judging Christian" trap you want to shove me into.

The Word of God judges what you say.

God does not want to be taken literally?!

Give me a break!

He has to practically scream to get most people's attention in this "enlightened" world. Do you think He put His very heart into writing so we could all guess about what he really means.

You are a humanist, no matter what other clothing you seek to wrap yourself in.

I think you and other evolutionists need to ask yourself whether you are closer to Christians or to Pharisees.

"You are a humanist, no matter what other clothing you seek to wrap yourself in. . . .

I think you and other evolutionists need to ask yourself whether you are closer to Christians or to Pharisees."

All three of the big code words are here; "humanist" -- didn't you really mean to write "secular humanist"? -- "evolutionist," and "Pharisee." This is a great work of symbolic communication that touches an expected reaction among other Creationists, but it insists that I accept your judgement of my religious beliefs as wrongful and leading me to damnation. This I will not do.

There are many Christians like myself who are schooled in what is termed the "moral theology" which teaches that, while there are absolutes in morals and rightful and wrongful interpretations of religious truth, it is important that an individual Christian avoid asserting or even implying that, beyond the profession of faith, others who do not hold to these moral absolutes or particular interpretations as he or she understands them are to be judged as sinful. You will never see me pronounce another practicing Christian's soul as damned, nor will you see me insist that any other individual adopt my beliefs as their own, though I am prepared to speak my beliefs. I have seen you insist that your belief that the literal truth of biblical text is an absolute and you view with ridicule anyone who argues to the contrary. Saint Augustine, Saint Thomas Aquinas, Saint Thomas More and many others pointed to the use of rhetorical flourish, allegory, and more in biblical texts. Do you damn them as humanists too? These were some of the top religious theologians of their day, Augustine may in fact be the most important Christian theologian since Saint Paul.

Not all Christianity is practiced in the way you do Lurking. Be careful about damning others who observe their beliefs differently.

I did NOT compare you to Islamo-Fascists.

Sure you did:

"If you don't believe in the truths of the Bible, you can have all the "well-formed religious views" in the world and it will not get you any closer to anything meaningful than will a pack of explosives around his middle get a suicide bomber 72 virgins."

That's a comparison, son.

Again, I will not let you try to box me into the "judging Christian" trap you want to shove me into.

But you've been working overtime to shove *him* into many boxes due to your preconceptions (e.g. "humanist", etc.), I've noticed...

Say, what was that one about the mote and the beam again?

He has to practically scream to get most people's attention in this "enlightened" world.

Then I suggest that He send me an email, that'd work fine and save His throat from all that screaming. And no, I'm not being facetious. There's a point here, but I suspect you'll miss it.

I think you and other evolutionists need to ask yourself whether you are closer to Christians or to Pharisees.

Sometimes I feel closer to Galileo.