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The Drugstore War
cbs ^ | 11-23-04

Posted on 11/23/2004 7:36:40 PM PST by LouAvul

After Idalia and Jose Moran's son was born by C-section, Idalia Moran's doctor advised her not to get pregnant again for two to three years, and prescribed the pill.

But as CBS News correspondent Byron Pitts reports, when she went to the pharmacy, the cashier said, "You know what? I cannot refill them because the pharmacist says it's against his religion because it's abortion."

Moran told CBS she was stunned and ashamed.

"I felt really bad, because I thought maybe these are for abortion," Moran said. "I don't know."

Across the country, more and more pharmacists are refusing to fill prescriptions for religious reasons.

South Dakota, Arkansas and Mississippi even have refusal clauses on the books. And 13 other states are considering mixing medicine with morality.

At Lloyd's Pharmacy in Gray, La., Lloyd Duplantis believes in prayer.

"God bless the great state of Louisiana, the parish…In the name of the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit…" Duplantis said in a makeshift prayer group in the middle of his store.

And he believes birth control is tantamount to abortion. So, he stocks his shelves accordingly.

"I don’t sell condoms. I don't sell foams. I don't sell creams," Duplantis said. "I don't sell anything to do with contraception."

He said, even if a woman who was the victim of incestuous rape walked in his door after having been prescribed the pill, he wouldn't change his policy.

"I would tell her that I can't prescribe this," Duplantis said.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


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KEYWORDS: abortion; conscienceclause; freedom; pharmacy
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It's his business. Why do people think society can impose values upon private businesses?
1 posted on 11/23/2004 7:36:40 PM PST by LouAvul
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To: LouAvul
Society can't force the owner of a pharmacy to sell anything.

However, if the owner of a pharmacy stocks contraceptives, and one of his pharmacists refuses to sell them, he should pass the prescription to a pharmacist who will. That, or the refusing pharmacist should quit.

2 posted on 11/23/2004 7:40:03 PM PST by sinkspur ("It is a great day to be alive. I appreciate your gratitude." God Himself.)
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To: LouAvul
It's his business. Why do people think society can impose values upon private businesses?

It certainly is his business, although it's rather strange to consider these forms of birth control abortion, since they work to PREVENT fertilization.

3 posted on 11/23/2004 7:41:35 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (Sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: LouAvul
I would tell her that I can't prescribe this," Duplantis said

As a pharmacist I doubt that he can prescribe anything.

4 posted on 11/23/2004 7:42:56 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Ignoranus: A person who's both stupid and an a**hole)
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To: LouAvul

My sister got bullied into filling a prescription for some sort of abortion pill.


5 posted on 11/23/2004 7:43:22 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: Graybeard58
As a pharmacist I doubt that he can prescribe anything.

Great point. You might think that someone with a job that requires the precision that his does (or used to) would be more accurate with his choice of words.

6 posted on 11/23/2004 7:44:13 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (Sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: LouAvul
It's his business.

And that is the crux, if it is HIS pharmacy, he is certainly free not to stock birth control pills.

However, if he works at a place that does stock these things, then he should keep his religon to himself and either sell the drugs, or find another job.

If I'm a baptist waiter working at a resturant/bar; is it fair for me to refuse to bring beer to guests? Is it fair for me to demand that someone else do their job, plus mine? If I am muslim, can I refuse to make your sausage pizza (which I would believe to be unclean)? If I am a devoute Christian, and crude language offends me; can I refuse to play 'rap' music at the nightclub?

When you accept a job, you agree to provide the services required for a paycheck. Now, if the paychecks bounce, you are free to pursue legal recourses, and cease working. However, if the paychecks are good, and you refuse to service the customer; you can expect to be fired.

7 posted on 11/23/2004 7:46:18 PM PST by Hodar (With Rights, comes Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: LouAvul
It's his business. Why do people think society can impose values upon private businesses?

I agree. A man's business should be his to run as he sees fit, but the ACLU lawyers love to tell business owners how to run their businesses.

Think Civil Rights Movement in the 1960's. Think about sit-ins in restaurants that were white only. Think about activist jurists who love to "tinker" with the Constitution.

I'd be surprised if the ACLU wasn't all over these pharmacies ASAP.

8 posted on 11/23/2004 7:47:35 PM PST by Noachian (A Democrat, by definition, is a Socialist.)
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To: Hodar
If I am muslim, can I refuse to make your sausage pizza (which I would believe to be unclean)?

Not if you work at Dominos. Those pellets sure ain't any kind of sausage we know and love.

9 posted on 11/23/2004 7:49:14 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (Sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: Noachian
Think Civil Rights Movement in the 1960's. Think about sit-ins in restaurants that were white only.

Do you think an owner should be allowed to decide what race is served at his restaurant?

10 posted on 11/23/2004 7:50:15 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (Sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: Noachian
Think Civil Rights Movement in the 1960's. Think about sit-ins in restaurants that were white only.

You approve of "whites-only" establishments? How about blacks in the back of the bus?

11 posted on 11/23/2004 7:50:49 PM PST by sinkspur ("It is a great day to be alive. I appreciate your gratitude." God Himself.)
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To: LouAvul
What happens is that a potential customer comes in(with hidden recording devices) drops down a prescription for that drug, the pharmacist declines to fill it, the customer asks for clarification, leaves and takes his evidence to a ACLU friendly lawyer and claims his civil rights have been violated.
12 posted on 11/23/2004 7:53:43 PM PST by oyez (¡Qué viva la revolución de Reagan!)
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...his civil rights have been violated

Well, that is reaching a bit. her civil rights have been violated.

Sorry.

13 posted on 11/23/2004 7:56:33 PM PST by oyez (¡Qué viva la revolución de Reagan!)
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To: dr_who_2
My sister got bullied into filling a prescription for some sort of abortion pill.

My daughter, a pharmacy tech, bullied her pharmacist into not carrying the the drug.

14 posted on 11/23/2004 7:56:52 PM PST by TheRightGuy (ERROR CODE 018974523: Random Tagline Compiler Failure)
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To: dr_who_2
My sister got bullied into filling a prescription for some sort of abortion pill.

My daughter, a pharmacy tech, bullied her pharmacist into not carrying the the drug.

15 posted on 11/23/2004 7:56:58 PM PST by TheRightGuy (ERROR CODE 018974523: Random Tagline Compiler Failure)
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To: ClintonBeGone

Actually, the pharmacist is right. Any pill that contains prostaglandin (and almost all do) acts to prevent implantation of the "products of conception" (read "baby" in the red states).


16 posted on 11/23/2004 7:57:29 PM PST by TapTap
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To: LouAvul; GatorGirl; maryz; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; livius; goldenstategirl; ...

Ping for life.


17 posted on 11/23/2004 7:57:44 PM PST by narses (Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family + Vivo Christo Rey!)
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To: sinkspur
I am sure the owner would if it bothered him. So we must assume this guy either is the owner or the owner agrees with him.

Therefore, that takes us back to square one...he should be able to sell or not sell...it is his business. I do not believe the government should be able to force a small businessman to sell something he doesn't want to.

And I also do not regard birth control pills as abortion pills, though I am pro-life and do not believe in abortion. But if he does...so be it.
18 posted on 11/23/2004 7:58:35 PM PST by Proud Legions
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To: ClintonBeGone

All Oral Contraceptives work by three methods. By:
1. Preventing Ovulation
2. Preventing fertilization (by inhibiting movement of the sperm to the fallopian tube.
3. By preventing an embryo from implanting into the uterus.

#3 is effectively a chemical abortion.


19 posted on 11/23/2004 7:59:05 PM PST by rmichaelj
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To: ClintonBeGone; sinkspur
It's his business. Why do people think society can impose values upon private businesses?

A better question is do you two think that government has the right to tell those who own their own businesses how to run those businesses?

That's exactly what the ACLU will be filing in its briefs against these pharmacies.

You can't have it both ways. Either the government can tell you how to run a business or it can't. If both of you say that government is in control of business decisions that affect social policy then you're both on a slippery slope.

20 posted on 11/23/2004 7:59:41 PM PST by Noachian (A Democrat, by definition, is a Socialist.)
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