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The war in Iraq has nothing to do with 9/11
Tuesday, November 20, 2004 | Eric Boyd

Posted on 11/23/2004 7:18:49 PM PST by captainavenger

THE WAR IN IRAQ HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11

If you believe that you are a fool.

John Kerry seemed to enjoy saying over and over during the 2004 presidential campaign that Iraq did not attack America on 9/11. Kerry’s infamous argument that the war in Iraq was the “wrong war in the wrong place at the wrong time” was a case that Saddam Hussein was in no way a subject of the global war on terror.

Liberal news commentators have been fond of asking the question: If George W. Bush and Dick Cheney have not been at least implying that Saddam Hussein had something to do with the 9/11 attacks then why do 80% of their supporters still believe that to be true?”

Here’s is the answer to both Kerry’s claims and the accusatory questioning of the liberal pendants: conservative minded people are not fools. We do not need the details outlined in The 9/11 Commission Report, showing a history of terrorist support, to know that Iraq has supported terrorists. We do not need all the reams of intelligence from agencies throughout the world, which simply reveal that Saddam Hussein’s regime was itself a terrorist organization, to know that Iraq was a hotbed of terror.

We are not fools. We know that Osama Bin Laden likely planned the attack on America. The specific group of terrorists who identify themselves as Al-Qaida may have carried out the horrific acts of war on our Pentagon and the World Trade Center. But the war on terror is against Al-Qaida, Hizballah, Islamic Jihad, HAMAS, Abu Nidal, hundreds of other terror “organizations,” and every individual who seeks only to kill for the sake of Allah or any other reason. Saddam Hussein is counted as prominent among these terrorists.

Making no mistake, we know that the war on terror is currently focused on the most vicious and wide-spread seed of terror; that which grows out of the religion of Islam. We know that the war on terror is a war against Muslim radicals, Muslim extremists and Muslim moderates who support terror and who cheered at the deaths of thousands of Americans and other Nationals on 9/11.

We also know that Iraq is filled with these terrorists, that it has been a terrorist state. Do we need to stop and make a special statement that not all Muslims are terrorists? No, we are Americans. We believe in individuality. We judge people as individuals. It is one of the few things left that makes America different from most of the world. We know the truth: far too many Muslims throughout the world are terrorists.

Islamic terrorists are joined, not by organization, affiliation, treaty or agreement. They are connected by a hateful ideology that says that anyone who is not a Muslim should be killed. With a hive mentality they may use different names and may never associate directly one with another but they are all one in their goals of destruction.

Why do conservative minded people believe that Iraq was involved with the 9/11 deaths? It is not because George .W Bush or Dick Cheney said that Iraq was involved with 9/11. It is not because overwhelming evidence proves Saddam Hussein took part in the plot. It is with basic intuition and simple common sense that we ask ourselves these questions and know the answers:

Did Saddam Hussein support terrorists? Have terrorists been trained in Iraq? Are terror groups harbored in Iraq? Was Iraq a likely breeding ground for future terror attacks? Is the world a better and safer place if Iraq is free, democratic and against terrorism?

If you believe the war in Iraq has nothing to do with 9/11 you are a fool.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
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To: ohCompGk
And as far as the civilian casualties go I think it would be better for the civilians to get Abu Musab Al Zarqawi and his top people as quickly as possible. The faster they are gotten the fewer in the long run will be the casualities of the Iraqi civilians and of our people.
61 posted on 11/23/2004 9:03:39 PM PST by voteconstitutionparty
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To: Cacique

Read the article hon!


62 posted on 11/23/2004 9:07:44 PM PST by ladyinred (Congratulations President Bush! Four more years!)
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To: captainavenger

Of course Iraq was involved. I also know there is evidence, but it is just not revealed in the main stream media.


63 posted on 11/23/2004 9:08:23 PM PST by ladyinred (Congratulations President Bush! Four more years!)
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To: captainavenger
" Kerry’s infamous argument that the war in Iraq was the “wrong war in the wrong place at the wrong time”

Kerry was appealing to the ignorant and the fearful in America, calculating that there were more of them than there were informed and brave citizens. Kerry badly miscalculated the intelligence and character of our people and is left with his gang of homosexuals, media rats, feminists, abortionists and pacifists to ponder why they lost. Here's hoping they continue to slide into the abyss of history and never return to power.

64 posted on 11/23/2004 9:20:48 PM PST by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" - Pope Urban II, 1097 A.D.)
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To: voteconstitutionparty
The strategy of allowing the general and his top people to escape so as to better fight the left behinds is a new one on me. Can you give some examples of that as a successful military strategy?

Well, that isn't quite what I was saying but, no I can't. Most generals do their commanding from far behind the lines. Event the great R. E. Lee was far enough behind the lines to facilitate a hasty retreat after Gettysburg. If Lee would have fallen at Gettysburg, Jefferson Davis would have replaced him. Appomattox occurred because the Confederate army was defeated not, because the south ran out of generals.

And I don't think that Abu Musab Al Zarqawi is a general who should be allowed to go home after defeating his army,because he can always get another one.

I wasn't suggesting that we let him go home. If he can get another army then the war isn't over with. We're not fighting a war against a fixed entity and as such there is no Jefferson Davis or Abe Lincoln to sue for peace. If Bin-Laden were to die tomorrow the war would go on. The sad fact of this war is that it can only be a war of attrition. The only way to win this war is to kill them until they don't want to fight any more.

If we killed Zarqawi we would have to wait till he was replaced before continuing, thus giving them time to recoup and lengthening the war.

65 posted on 11/23/2004 9:45:39 PM PST by ohCompGk
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To: captainavenger
"I'm sorry... what is "Bump!"?"

Bump is a short way to say 'bump to the top'. So are the initials BTTT.

When someone posts a comment or reply to the article, then the article (thread) gets 'bumped' to the top of the list in that forum. More people can then see the title of the article and read it. Thus, 'bump to the top'. It should be taken to mean that this is a good article and should be read by others.

When you write your own article and post it, it is called a 'vanity' article and should be posted in the forum for vanities. It could also go in several other forums (check all that apply), if appropriate, like humor for instance. BUT, don't put a vanity in Breaking News/Activism (unless it is an urgent call to action or special HOT BREAKING news that you heard/saw on radio/tv.

Articles that you excerpt, or post in entirety, should also contain the link to that article for verification and research purposes. Additionaly, use the exact title of the article, so others can search before posting a duplicate.

You can find more about FR etiquette  in Help at the top of the Home page or forum page.  Many GREAT links are also on the Home page.

Welcome to FR.
Enjoy

FReegards,
RebelTex

66 posted on 11/23/2004 9:56:53 PM PST by RebelTex (Freedom is Everyone's Right... ...and Everyone's Responsibility!)
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To: captainavenger
I am having some difficulty determining the difference between a compliment and an insult is many cases. But thanks… I think.

The post holds sentiments held by many. I don't know why anyone would question the intent.

Welcome to FreeRepublic!

p.s. Are these your own words, or from an article?

p.p.s. Welcome regardless!

67 posted on 11/23/2004 10:00:10 PM PST by easonc52
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To: voteconstitutionparty
I think it would be better for the civilians to get Abu Musab Al Zarqawi and his top people as quickly as possible.

Yep. And if the people of Chicago would have taken care of Al Capone... It's difficult enough to get a person to risk/give his own life let alone his home and family's lives. There aren't many cases in history of it happening. Tyrants know this. That's why the right to bear arm was put into the Constitution. Our forefather's realized the need for a militia, not the need to hunt deer.

68 posted on 11/23/2004 10:01:25 PM PST by ohCompGk
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To: RebelTex

Thank you so much for the quick lesson. I apologize for my "vanity" and my IGNORANCE. I didn’t intend to be a FOOL. I had searched around for the rules and wasn’t able to find any. Thank you for pointing me in the RIGHT direction.


69 posted on 11/23/2004 10:01:42 PM PST by captainavenger
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To: RebelTex
FReegards,

RebelTex

btw, nice personal page!

70 posted on 11/23/2004 10:04:11 PM PST by easonc52
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To: YOUGOTIT
Not only are you a fool but you must be a left-wing fascist anti-american democrat to believe that the war in Iraq is not part of 9/11.

It used to be a tactic of the PC Left to say: If you disagree with us, you're a racist/sexist/fascist/homophobe.

But since 9/11, many "conservatives" have mutated into a sort of PC Right, with their own statements of blanket accusations and ugly smear tactics.

I'm a patriotic true conservative/libertarian American who (regretfully) voted for Bush in 2000. Yet I too think the war in Iraq has nothing to do with 9/11.

71 posted on 11/23/2004 10:04:40 PM PST by Commie Basher
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72 posted on 11/23/2004 10:06:16 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: captainavenger
"Thank you for pointing me in the RIGHT direction.

You are welcome.

Glad you found FR. It's a fascinating place and very enjoyable and educational.

It's also very habit forming.
;^D

73 posted on 11/23/2004 10:08:07 PM PST by RebelTex (Freedom is Everyone's Right... ...and Everyone's Responsibility!)
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To: easonc52

Thank you for the welcome. I wrote the article myself. Although I'm realizing that I posted it improperly, I deeply believe in the sentiments.


74 posted on 11/23/2004 10:08:54 PM PST by captainavenger
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To: Commie Basher

Hmmmm????


75 posted on 11/23/2004 10:11:10 PM PST by captainavenger
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
President BUSH promised in writing... Freedom's return to: ... Communist Vietnam , Communist North Korea ... during a BUSH Presidency...

And how is Bush going to achieve that absent war with Red China? (For that matter, isn't your hero a good buddy of Red China?)

Bush spouts off about "freedom," then does business (and empowers) the world's greatest totalitarian nation.

If you believe that Bush's Mideast crusades having anything to do with "spreading freedom," then guess what? Bush is laughing at you and thinking: SUCKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER!

76 posted on 11/23/2004 10:11:13 PM PST by Commie Basher
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To: Commie Basher
Yet I too think the war in Iraq has nothing to do with 9/11.

Saddam Hussein definitely wants the United States of America to disappear (along with Israel) in any way, shape or manner possible.

He's been supporting people who share his point of view monetarily for many years.

I believe it boils down to the concept that the enemy of my enemy is my friend...

77 posted on 11/23/2004 10:13:44 PM PST by easonc52
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To: Commie Basher

Hmmmm??? You didn't actually read the article did you?


78 posted on 11/23/2004 10:14:38 PM PST by captainavenger
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To: captainavenger
[to commie basher] Hmmmm??? You didn't actually read the article did you?

I wondered the same thing - lol

79 posted on 11/23/2004 10:16:23 PM PST by easonc52
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To: easonc52
"btw, nice personal page!"

Thanks - not many FReepers take the time to check other FReepers' Profiles.

I really like yours - especially that image of the eagle, flag, and carrier combo.
Hope you don't mind that I 'stole' it.

FReegards,

Rebel Flag Texas Flag
RebelTex

80 posted on 11/23/2004 10:16:31 PM PST by RebelTex (Freedom is Everyone's Right... ...and Everyone's Responsibility!)
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