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KIEV: HANDOVER OF POWER
Sky News ^ | November 23, 2004

Posted on 11/23/2004 5:07:24 PM PST by kupia_kummi

A peaceful handover of power has reportedly been agreed in the Ukraine after protesters clashed with anti-riot police outside the president's headquarters.  

Tensions in the capital Kiev reached breaking point as tens of thousands of demonstrators surrounded the HQ.

They had been called on to march by opposition leader Viktor Yushchenko.  

He and his supporters believed the presidential election, which took place at the weekend, was rigged.  

According to the poll results, Kremlin-backed Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych won the presidency.  

But after calls from outgoing president Leonid Kuchma for talks between the two sides, Mr Yanukovych stepped aside.  

Mr Yushchenko will now become president, it has been reported.  

The turmoil in the Ukraine followed a day of claims and counter-claims about the disputed presidential election, which has been condemned internationally as not being "free or fair".

(Excerpt) Read more at sky.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: elections; ukraine
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To: Leo Carpathian
Get this.

Oh I get what you're saying.
I just don't get how it's 'democracy'.

21 posted on 11/23/2004 6:04:45 PM PST by evad (DUmmie FUnnies and Pookie Toons-the start of a nice day)
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To: kupia_kummi

What does Jimmmmmy Carter think?


22 posted on 11/23/2004 6:05:23 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Labyrinthos

Why give it the the commie of course


24 posted on 11/23/2004 6:12:10 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: kupia_kummi

Oops. I thought this was Washington State, but nope, it's the Ukraine... My bad.


25 posted on 11/23/2004 6:14:00 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (01010010 01001111 01010100 01000110 01001100)
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To: kupia_kummi
Yushchenko better watch his back. They have already tried to kill him twice!
26 posted on 11/23/2004 6:19:42 PM PST by jan in Colorado (I'm not opinionated, I'm Just Always "Right "!)
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To: ganeshpuri89
I'm glad to hear that Schaffer is there.

He should be our new Senator in Colorado. ( I know, get over it)
27 posted on 11/23/2004 6:23:06 PM PST by jan in Colorado (I'm not opinionated, I'm Just Always "Right "!)
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To: Truth666

The year is 2004 - here is a good example that it is now possible for western mass media to manufacture any "information" :
- the prime minister of the second largest european country steps aside, because he accepted the critic of the candidate that lost the elections, about fraud.


28 posted on 11/23/2004 6:24:56 PM PST by Truth666
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To: kupia_kummi

So the guy that "won" the election, Putin-backed, stepped aside and the opposition leader is going to be president?

Confusing.


29 posted on 11/23/2004 6:25:16 PM PST by eyespysomething ("Life has a flavor the protected will never know...." Major Jason Muldoon)
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To: kupia_kummi

It would not at all surprise me if the Kremlin-bakced candidate brazenly stole the election. So perhaps the true winner will take office. I guess we have just have to wait to find out more.


30 posted on 11/23/2004 6:26:43 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: rogue yam

LOL.


31 posted on 11/23/2004 6:27:17 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: ganeshpuri89

Thank you for any and all information you can send.


33 posted on 11/23/2004 7:06:37 PM PST by jan in Colorado (I'm not opinionated, I'm Just Always "Right "!)
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To: evad
[ They turned over power based on polls and a mob. Is that democracy? ]

Yes... Democracy has always been mob rule. At every time, in every place, in every way.. Socialism is a symptom of mob rule..

34 posted on 11/23/2004 7:35:08 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: kupia_kummi

Assuming that the election inspectors were correct in their assessment of the election as a failure because it was rigged; I am pleased that the guy who the people actually voted for is now in power. This could have been really ugly. I hope for the best for the Ukrainian people.


35 posted on 11/23/2004 7:38:18 PM PST by contemplator
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To: All
It's a confusing event but it looks like the guy stepping down won via the fraud route:

Widespread Vote Fraud Is Alleged In Ukraine

Observers also said state workers were forced to apply for absentee ballots from their managers and that the filled-in ballots were collected at their places of work. Students were coerced to vote by their professors and deans, according to the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe. At a news conference, the monitors said there were too many violations for them to enumerate.

Sounds like they've modeled their vote-getting techniques after the Democrats in the U.S. When you can't win--cheat!

37 posted on 11/23/2004 7:50:07 PM PST by Reagan is King (The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal.)
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To: kupia_kummi; dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; ..

"But after calls from outgoing president Leonid Kuchma for talks between the two sides, Mr Yanukovych stepped aside. Mr Yushchenko will now become president, it has been reported."

While most of the people on the streets are no doubt genuine, both Yanukovych and Yushchenko are completely controlled by Moscow IMO. This is pure theater designed to dupe the West into believing the Ukraine and Moscow are NOT working together as one.


39 posted on 11/23/2004 8:11:04 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: kupia_kummi
But after calls from outgoing president Leonid Kuchma for talks between the two sides, Mr Yanukovych stepped aside.

Mr Yushchenko will now become president, it has been reported.

Beautiful outcome. Minimal/no violence, a peaceful transfer of power, and no stolen election.

I think us FReepers have to prepare for the possibility that the EU actually stood up for democracy and the resulting political pressure tipped the scales. Shocking as it sounds, maybe the EU can actually be a positive force in the world. Or maybe not; it's too early to tell.

40 posted on 11/23/2004 8:15:48 PM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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