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To: Rocky Mountain Mama
You have not been reading the threads about Soros then. He and his group the MOVEON( Ukraine branch) have been working hard to pave the way for an EU controlled move into the Ukraine. Get back to me in a year or two.... THEN, you will really understand all this "theater" in the Ukraine.

You think it ALL about freedom... when it ALL about the EU and their slimey power grab.

Remember... hillary is Soros' EU gal in the USA. His son Jonathan is one of her BIGGEST $$$ supporters.

142 posted on 11/24/2004 6:16:15 AM PST by Lion in Winter (I ain't no pussy cat... don't mess with me... ya hear! GRRRRRRrrr)
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To: Lion in Winter

Read the Ukrainians take on it:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1287133/posts?page=86#86

They rebut some of what you all have been saying.


143 posted on 11/24/2004 6:23:59 AM PST by Rocky Mountain Mama (four more years of tax cuts and dead terrorists)
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To: Lion in Winter

EU Threatens Consequences for Ukraine
The Guardian ^ | 11/24/04 | CONSTANT BRAND


Posted on 11/24/2004 7:48:21 AM CST by Valin
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1287478/posts

BRUSSELS, Belgium (AP) - European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso warned Wednesday of ``consequences'' for the European Union's political and trade relations with neighboring Ukraine if the government there does not allow a full review of contested presidential election results.

``There will be consequences, if there is not a serious, objective review,'' Barroso told reporters. ``I hope there will be no consequences.''

Barroso said the 25-nation bloc was demanding a ``complete review of the electoral process'' after the second round of elections in Ukraine, which international election observers declared flawed.

``The report of the electoral observation mission indicates Ukraine did not meet international standards of democratic elections,'' Barroso said.

The new EU chief however did not go into specifics of what the consequences would be. At risk might be around $1.31 billion the bloc has given or committed to Ukraine since 1991, in development and economic aid and possible visa-bans on politicians and officials.

``We regret that the Ukrainian authorities have not taken the opportunity to demonstrate their commitment to democracy. This could affect our relations in the future,'' said Barroso. ``We hope that in the meantime, a political solution can be found and we call on restraint from all sides to achieve that goal.''

Barroso said the EU would ``make our position clear'' with Russian President Vladimir Putin at Thursday's EU-Russia summit in The Hague, the Netherlands.

``It is our duty to say we are not satisfied with the way the elections took place in Ukraine.''

The EU's threat, being used to put added pressure on Ukraine authorities to meet Western demands, came as the EU's top envoy said he would consider leading a high-level delegation to Ukraine to see if he could help resolve the tense political standoff following a charged presidential election.

EU foreign policy representative Javier Solana said, however, that he had ``doubts'' now was the time to go.

``There is not much you can do physically there, but we can reconsider that,'' he told the European Parliament's foreign affairs committee, which called a special debate on Ukraine amid fears the country could fall into civil conflict over the disputed election results.

Official results after the second round gave Kremlin-backed Viktor Yanukovych a narrow lead over Western-leaning opposition candidate Viktor Yushchenko, with almost all votes counted. But they were widely dismissed by EU and other observers as flawed.

The EU assembly's committee chairman, German conservative Elmar Brok, pushed Solana on behalf of his committee ``to consider'' sending a high-level mission to exert ``necessary pressure'' on Ukrainian authorities to resolve the crisis peacefully.

Polish Liberal Democrat Grazyna Staniszewska said if Solana did not go, the parliament should send its own team and consider pressing EU governments to impose sanctions.

``We must send a new observer mission to prevent a bloodbath,'' she said.


144 posted on 11/24/2004 6:24:20 AM PST by Valin (Out Of My Mind; Back In Five Minutes)
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