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Poll: Creationism Trumps Evolution
CBS.com ^ | 11/22/04 | staff

Posted on 11/22/2004 5:22:17 PM PST by pissant

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To: Unam Sanctam

Scientific theory is essentially scientific fact. It is as close to truth as you will ever come. A theory is not just a guess, as is the common meaning. A scientific theory is a systematic explanation of a natural phenomenon, backed by huge amounts of data that all support each other.

If there is ever a substantiated discrepancy, the theory is discarded. In over 150 years, the evidence has accumulated for evolution, pretty much as Darwin originally described it. No one has ever presented one iota of evidence that contradicts evolution, except the creationuts who misrepresent the facts to scam money out of unfortunate
gullible people.


41 posted on 11/22/2004 5:42:35 PM PST by shubi (Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom,must undergo the fatigues of supporting it.)
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To: ZellsBells

Yes, I run a homeless ministry in the inner city.


42 posted on 11/22/2004 5:43:25 PM PST by shubi (Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom,must undergo the fatigues of supporting it.)
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To: melsec

God created the circumstances and laws for life to begin and evolve.


43 posted on 11/22/2004 5:44:42 PM PST by shubi (Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom,must undergo the fatigues of supporting it.)
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To: shubi
I too taught biology at a university. I also worked as a professional biologist for over two decades.

Muleteam1

44 posted on 11/22/2004 5:44:50 PM PST by Muleteam1
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To: melsec

Oh I didn't answer your question.

Evolution does not mean that apes become human. It means that apes and humans come from a common ancestor from which they diverge. You can look at the DNA and see the similarities. The closer the DNA the closer the time of divergence.

We have the same basic DNA as a banana. So, you might say that we came from bananas (it would be wrong, but you might say it). It is just as ridiculous to say that apes turned into men as bananas. Although, our wives might say both are true.


45 posted on 11/22/2004 5:47:56 PM PST by shubi (Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom,must undergo the fatigues of supporting it.)
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To: Muleteam1

After Nam, I ran a big farm, then worked for USDA once, but most of the time I did not directly use biology anymore.


46 posted on 11/22/2004 5:49:23 PM PST by shubi (Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom,must undergo the fatigues of supporting it.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Not really sure you wanna get in this one. The Poofists are crowing loudly that they've suckered the majority of respondants; probably best to let 'em get it out of their system.


47 posted on 11/22/2004 5:49:56 PM PST by orionblamblam
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To: pissant

"If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing."


48 posted on 11/22/2004 5:50:45 PM PST by Dimensio (Join the Monthly Internet Flash Mob: http://www.aa419.org)
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To: shubi

50 posted on 11/22/2004 5:51:43 PM PST by TitansAFC (Al Gonzales for SCOTUS? Let's just nominate Arlen Specter.)
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To: Tribemike
the Evolutionist religionists keep changing the theory as science keeps proving it wrong.

No, the theory of evolution has never addressed the ultimate origins of life. This is an old creationist lie that they throw up when they want to attack something that isn't part of the theory of evolution as a means of undermining evolution.
51 posted on 11/22/2004 5:51:51 PM PST by Dimensio (Join the Monthly Internet Flash Mob: http://www.aa419.org)
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To: shubi
Now this is getting interesting. I too worked for the USDA, as well as the USDOI.

Muleteam1

52 posted on 11/22/2004 5:53:19 PM PST by Muleteam1
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To: Unam Sanctam
it should be taught in a way that is respectful of the beliefs of Christians who believe in a literal Biblical account of creation.

Why do we need to temper our scientific theories simply because some people might feel that observed reality contradicts their religious beliefs?
53 posted on 11/22/2004 5:53:26 PM PST by Dimensio (Join the Monthly Internet Flash Mob: http://www.aa419.org)
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To: Dimensio

Sure it does.....it is a false religion and you're up to your neck in it.

Professor Patterson of the British Museum....said spontaneous generation was impossible, yet he believed it anyway because Creation meant responsiblity to God....


54 posted on 11/22/2004 5:55:03 PM PST by Tribemike (Here is the text of the article....)
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To: AVNevis

Perhaps there has been evolution of some species. If so, it was part of God's plan.


55 posted on 11/22/2004 5:55:48 PM PST by pissant
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To: shubi
It means that apes and humans come from a common ancestor from which they diverge.

This is an unsubstantiated claim. Because our DNA is similar does not mean we came from a common ancestor, although Evolution claims it to be true. Logically, there is no connection.
56 posted on 11/22/2004 5:56:32 PM PST by microgood
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To: Dimensio

--"Why do we need to temper our scientific theories simply because some people might feel that observed reality contradicts their religious beliefs?"

Perhaps because you would want exactly the same in reverse:
re-read: "Why do we need to temper our religious beliefs simply because some people might feel that observed reality contradicts their scientific theories?

Imagine a group of teachers following that logic.....


57 posted on 11/22/2004 5:58:57 PM PST by TitansAFC (Al Gonzales for SCOTUS? Let's just nominate Arlen Specter.)
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To: TitansAFC
Except that when the theory of evolution is taught, it is (hopefully) taught in the context of a science class.

I don't see a need to adjust a theory simply because it makes people feel uncomfortable. In fact, I see that as a very bad practice.
59 posted on 11/22/2004 6:00:33 PM PST by Dimensio (Join the Monthly Internet Flash Mob: http://www.aa419.org)
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To: microgood

Logically there IS a connection. Denying a connection exists because you don't want evolution to be true is quaint, but hardly an intellectual exercise.

There were many different systems of evidence that pointed to how living things diverge from common ancestors back to the start of life. DNA was a culminating system of evidence that supported all the prior systems.

Evolution does not contradict the Bible. Don't be scared to examine truth. It will tell you a lot more about God that you need to know.


60 posted on 11/22/2004 6:01:53 PM PST by shubi (Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom,must undergo the fatigues of supporting it.)
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