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The real story of what happened in that mosque
http://www.kevinsites.net/ ^ | November 21, 2004 | Kevin Sites

Posted on 11/22/2004 6:50:54 AM PST by eternalperspective

Since the shooting in the Mosque, I've been haunted that I have not been able to tell you directly what I saw or explain the process by which the world came to see it as well. As you know, I'm not some war zone tourist with a camera who doesn't understand that ugly things happen in combat. I've spent most of the last five years covering global conflict. But I have never in my career been a 'gotcha' reporter -- hoping for people to commit wrongdoings so I can catch them at it.

(Excerpt) Read more at kevinsites.net ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: fallujahmarine; iraq; kevinsites
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To: eternalperspective

He is such a hero reporter that I hope he goes out with the Marine's again.


21 posted on 11/22/2004 7:10:25 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, AIr Force, Pray for all our military in hostile territory.)
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To: Smarti Pants
Hey, Smarti, I have a few ideas...

1. Why don't you hang around the forum just a little more than a month or so before you start telling us how to or not to post. We know what we're doing.

2. Why don't you use your mouse, click on the link that was posted and read the original post and commentary

3. If you aren't up for a little ribbing, then hit the road, Jack.

Oh, by the way, welcome to FR.

22 posted on 11/22/2004 7:13:34 AM PST by mattdono ("Crush the democrats, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags" -Big Arnie)
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To: Smarti Pants

Ditto. Links that contained the story in other threads failed to work for me, so this is the first time I've read his account.


23 posted on 11/22/2004 7:15:19 AM PST by exnavychick
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To: mattdono
I did a search with the most obvious hyper-link www.kevinsites.net/ and came up with nothing. Perhaps the search engine in FR ignores hyper-links. Is this so?
24 posted on 11/22/2004 7:17:36 AM PST by eternalperspective (Here's my take on the question you raise)
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To: mattdono

Thanks for the advice matto - been around enough, thanks. Learning lots - and have no probs w/ribbing. Smile - it's a monday, but at least we're here, right?


25 posted on 11/22/2004 7:18:11 AM PST by Smarti Pants (~never forget !!!!!!!!!!!!~)
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To: Smarti Pants; wideawake

I hadn't seen it either. Can't imagine why this is viewed as a problem.


26 posted on 11/22/2004 7:19:44 AM PST by sarasota
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To: sarasota
Can't imagine why [duplicate posting] is viewed as a problem.

Creating a new thread, instead of continuing the old one, causes the readers to miss the comments which have already been made. Links should be posted exactly one time. When there is continued interest in the subject, continue that thread.

28 posted on 11/22/2004 7:24:50 AM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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To: eternalperspective

It was the Marine's call to make not anyone else's. That Marine's decesion was a life and death decesion, The Marine Lived, the enemy died. The Marine felt danger in his mind and self preservation in his heart decesions are made quickly on the battlefield.

I have told my son, I don't give a damn if the Bastards 10 years old, wearing a skirt or a dress, old or young matters not. If that SOB has a AK47 or a weapon of anykind, or you sense danger --- KILL IT!!


29 posted on 11/22/2004 7:25:14 AM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Sede Vacante')
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To: eternalperspective

And I say the F###ER Kevin Sites can go straight to hell! Articles below more than show how the terrorists are fighting this guerrilla war. There is only one rule the marines must follow. COME BACK ALIVE TO YOUR FAMILIES AND A GRATEFUL NATION, AND KILL EVERY TERRORIST YOU CAN!!

Marines shoot insurgent who was 'playing dead' Australian ABC ^ | Nov. 22, 2004 | AFP


Posted on 11/21/2004 4:13:02 PM PST by FairOpinion


The US military says marines in Fallujah have shot and killed an insurgent who engaged them as he was faking being dead, a week after footage of a marine killing an apparently unarmed and wounded Iraqi caused a stir in the region.


"Marines from the 1st Marine Division shot and killed an insurgent who while faking dead opened fire on the marines who were conducting a security and clearing patrol through the streets," a military statement said.


Military sources had said that the rules of engagement were looser during the operation launched in Fallujah, for fear that rebels would be disguised, fake death or wear suicide explosives belts.


Violence sweeps Baghdad; Insurgents fire on US troops in Fallujah after waving white flag San Francisco Chronicle ^ | November 20, 2004 | ROBERT H. REID


Posted on 11/20/2004 4:29:31 PM PST by NoLibZone


Insurgents ambushed a U.S. patrol, killing a soldier, gunned down four government employees and clashed with American troops in neighborhoods across Baghdad on Saturday. Nine Iraqis died in fighting west of the capital -- another sign the insurgency remains potent despite the fall of its stronghold, Fallujah.


In Fallujah, where U.S. Marines and soldiers are still battling pockets of resistance, insurgents waved a white flag of surrender before opening fire on U.S. troops and causing casualties, Marine spokesman 1st Lt. Lyle Gilbert said Saturday without elaborating.


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30 posted on 11/22/2004 7:29:06 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: eternalperspective

Sites claims that these terrorists had all been treated for wounds on the previous day. One man was on the floor covered with a blanket. That makes no sense. Why would you treat injuries and leave a man with his face buried in another wounded man and leaning on a wall? The position of the wounded Iraqis against the wall, one of which was shot by the marine, doesn't make any sense if they had been treated the day before. Medics would have moved all of them, right?


31 posted on 11/22/2004 7:29:59 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Liberals Are INTOLERANT!)
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To: whcurry2003
A number of you so need to take it down a notch. You trash an individual who fails to do an approriate search as if they have slept with your wife...you would do well to reevaluate your own standing...if that particular line did not sink in, go f**k yourself. You are a sick person.

Way to show 'em how to take it down a notch!!

The negative feedback is what teaches us to be careful to do a search. Negative feedback going way over the line could be a problem, but I haven't observed it. Certainly not on this thread. Someone who joined less than a month ago was called a n00b. That is acceptable, in my view.

32 posted on 11/22/2004 7:31:59 AM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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To: eternalperspective
I yell to the lieutenant that we need to move....A Marine from my squad yells, "Are there Marines in here?"

I don't know why this bothers me.

33 posted on 11/22/2004 7:34:24 AM PST by Slyfox
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To: eternalperspective
Dude, justify the not searching any way you want. You either didn't do a search or you suck at searching...

The titled of the "article" on Kevin Sites' web site is "Open Letter to Devil Dogs of the 3.1".

Search just for "Devil Dogs"...you get this

The mods have left these 2 threads. There have been around 20 that I have seen that didn't use the actual title, but were duplicate posts.

I'm sick of seeing this story...be it here, on TV, on the radio, etc.

Have some respect for the people on this site by not cluttering things up with duplicate, triplicate, or 30-plicate postings.

It's simple forum etiquette. I don't understand why that's so hard?

34 posted on 11/22/2004 7:35:16 AM PST by mattdono ("Crush the democrats, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags" -Big Arnie)
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To: Smarti Pants
been around enough, thanks.

Smarti Pants
Since Oct 3, 2004

Yeah. Ok.

Enjoy the ribbing. I'm smiling. Glad I'm here. Glad I have been here for 4 years and, if you coun't lurking, 6 years.

So, Private First Class Smarti Pants, snap to and show some respect.

36 posted on 11/22/2004 7:39:42 AM PST by mattdono ("Crush the democrats, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags" -Big Arnie)
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To: NutCrackerBoy
Creating a new thread, instead of continuing the old one, causes the readers to miss the comments which have already been made. Links should be posted exactly one time. When there is continued interest in the subject, continue that thread.

I did not see the original thread. AND, when a thread has 2 pages of comments, I'm not wading through it. Besides, by that time, there are already conversations going on and new comments are ignored.

37 posted on 11/22/2004 7:43:21 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Liberals Are INTOLERANT!)
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To: mattdono

Glad you caught on that I was being somewhat cynical in my response. Missed a search = didn't do one. :)


38 posted on 11/22/2004 7:43:51 AM PST by FormerRep
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To: mattdono
Sir! YES SIR! HA HA, SIR!
40 posted on 11/22/2004 7:54:59 AM PST by Smarti Pants (~never forget !!!!!!!!!!!!~)
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