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The truth about marijuana.
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Posted on 11/21/2004 9:15:23 PM PST by april15Bendovr

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To: Ken H
Do you include social drinkers in that group?

Yes, if they are doing mind altering drugs to escape reality. I apologize in advance for not being a hypocrite on the issue. Sorry to disappoint...

141 posted on 11/22/2004 12:11:03 PM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Good stuff here.


142 posted on 11/22/2004 12:16:18 PM PST by Chieftain (Thank you Swift Boat Veterans/POWs/Vietnam Veterans for Truth - you did it for ALL your brothers!)
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To: tacticalogic

How many other 30+ year old studies are on government websites?


143 posted on 11/22/2004 12:18:22 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: newcats
Doesn't matter if it is a .gov site or not, I am sure there are tons of decades old studies and reports that aren't hosted on government servers

There are indeed. But as far as I know, this is the only research done on the subject by the federal government directly. Doesn't it seem the least bit odd that of all the information published on all the websites maintained by the Justice Department, the DEA, and the ONDCP, ostensibly for "public education", there is no mention of it anywhere?

144 posted on 11/22/2004 12:21:47 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
Yes, if they are doing mind altering drugs to escape reality. I apologize in advance for not being a hypocrite on the issue. Sorry to disappoint...

"Never apologize and never explain."
--Captain Nathan Brittles in "She Wore a Yellow Ribbon"

And my other question as to whether you consume alcohol?

145 posted on 11/22/2004 12:22:43 PM PST by Ken H
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To: WildTurkey

I'll bet I can find published census data back that far.


146 posted on 11/22/2004 12:25:12 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
Not at all.
Still a matter of available storage space.
147 posted on 11/22/2004 12:28:06 PM PST by newcats
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To: tacticalogic
But as far as I know, this is the only research done on the subject by the federal government directly.

Uh, don't bother us with the facts, we will spin our report as the democrats that funded us want it spun.

"The Commission decided early in its deliberations to write a Report that was complete but not overly technical so that the reader could understand the points discussed without analyzing detailed studies."

148 posted on 11/22/2004 12:37:49 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: newcats; tacticalogic

I don't understand it. According to the pro-druggies, government funded research is always suspect since they always have an agenda. Does this mean that government funding is good and we can trust the government positions on drugs?


149 posted on 11/22/2004 12:41:38 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: newcats
Not at all.

Still a matter of available storage space.

Maybe. But I was around when the report came out and saw the firestorm and reaction it created. I also know what disk space costs. I have good reason to believe not.

150 posted on 11/22/2004 12:42:21 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
cbkaty - I just do not understand the hostility associated with the quest for treatment of cancer.....

69ConvertibleFirebird - Oh, this is so, so, silly! I don't understand the hostility towards people who don't want their children enticed into using mind altering drugs for fun and pleasure. These casual drug users are often times so angry and hostile. I do hope that they get the help that they need.....

Wow...I rest my case....This forum seems to have atracted those that would rather shout down and demeam and yell "fire" in a crowded theater than debate the facts... BTW..I was not debating the casual user or his/her anger...I am talking people that puke their guts out and scream in pain..... I believe that the difference would mean more to you had you ever taken care of a cancer patient....Mother, Father, Wife, or Child......

151 posted on 11/22/2004 12:46:30 PM PST by cbkaty
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To: WildTurkey
I don't understand it. According to the pro-druggies, government funded research is always suspect since they always have an agenda. Does this mean that government funding is good and we can trust the government positions on drugs?

According to those who support the current status quo, and contribute to the propaganda effort by referring perjoratively to anyone who disagrees with them, we can't trust anything published on "pro-drug" web sites that advocate changing the law. Does this mean that since they published government funded research we can't trust that research?

152 posted on 11/22/2004 12:49:28 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

I noticed that you ducked the question.


153 posted on 11/22/2004 12:52:00 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: WildTurkey
I noticed that you ducked the question.

The only rational response to a loaded question is "tag and bag". I've been around way too long to fall for that crap.

154 posted on 11/22/2004 12:59:06 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
The only rational response to a loaded question is "tag and bag". I've been around way too long to fall for that crap.

But you seem to find it credible with an article that supports the Federal WOD's. Thank you.

155 posted on 11/22/2004 1:01:54 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: WildTurkey
But you seem to find it credible with an article that supports the Federal WOD's. Thank you.

For what? Your perceptions are your responsibility. I don't have anything to do with rationalizing them to suit you.

156 posted on 11/22/2004 1:06:17 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
For what? Your perceptions are your responsibility. I don't have anything to do with rationalizing them to suit you.

Not perception. Fact. Your "reference" supports the Federal WOD's. I didn't think you would find such a document credible.

157 posted on 11/22/2004 1:08:31 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: Ken H

Yes, when taking cough medicine.


158 posted on 11/22/2004 1:32:56 PM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
And my question as to whether you consume alcohol?

Yes, when taking cough medicine.

Other than cough medicine, do you consume alcohol?

159 posted on 11/22/2004 1:40:13 PM PST by Ken H
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To: cbkaty
LOL!!! You are funny!

Thanks for leaving off the beginning of the discussion. LOL!!! If you would have kept it you would have seen that the person changing the discussion to cancer treatment was trying to side track the things rather than discuss the issue at hand. But, that's what one does when he/she has no argument. Reference John Jerry and Al Gore for further material on this lesson.

If you don't understand this concept, let me give you an example.
Person A: "I want people judged by the content of their character rather than the color of their skin." Person B responds "You are a racist. You are a hate monger. Woo Hoo!!! I won the discussion. I rest my case."

Tiresome...

Feel free to rant all you want. I'm done responding.

160 posted on 11/22/2004 1:41:30 PM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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