Posted on 11/21/2004 11:07:42 AM PST by DBeers
As someone who's been on the receiving end of an unwanted no-fault divorce, I strongly agree. No-fault quickie divorces are a scourge on the institution of marriage.
There are reasons for divorce. But, laws that allow it to happen in 60 days with no reason are a problem.
I guess you don't think meeting an 18 year old cheerleader is a good reason?
Although I don't approve of the idea of same-sex "marriage" I have to agree that divorce is much more detrimental to traditional marriage. My parents divorced when my brothers and I were quite young...the fallout was pretty much nuclear on my family. How much worse it would have been if they had stayed married, I don't know, but they were my age (29 and 31) when they divorced. Maybe they could have gotten counselling and worked things out.
No fault divorce is egotism run amok.
Heh, nope. But at least I've lived past it long enough to laugh about it now!
Somehow, my Webster's definition of committment didn't include an out for younger ladies. :-)
I saw this on ABCnews website. It is more liberal media bias. To imply that one cannot oppose gay marriage unless they first do something about divorce shows a complete ignorance of the religious context of marriage.
Procedures for divorce are prescribed in the bible... gay marriage is never even mentioned. Divorce is far too rampant nowadays, but it is a totally different issue from Gay Marriage. This is just liberal media misrepresenting religious and conservative views and putting them on the defensive.
Several states have passed laws creating what are called 'covenant marriages,' which are entirely voluntary alternatives to a 'normal' marriage. One of the distinctives of the covenant marriage is a legal binding against 'no-fault divorces.'
I agree -any other 'contract' is treated much differently within our legal 'system'. Can you imagine if no-fault methodology was applied to every breach of contract? I would suggest that such contracts would become meaningless...
IMHO -'fault' was required proven prior to the 'liberal' no-fault laws were ushered in across the country. Proving fault was a necessary hurdle to 'allow' a 'no-fault' breaking of the marriage contract by the petitioner...
The no-fault laws were intended to discourage divisive litigation (fostering potential reconciliation), reduce court case loads, and prevent exorbitant legal costs impacting families.
The no-fault laws written then interpreted by the same elite liberal and morally corrupt legal minds that would usher in gay 'marriage' do nothing they were intended to do...
Yes, they are separate issue; however, I would suggest they are rooted in the same morally corrupt liberal agenda... Regardless, if conservatives write the laws -who cares how the liberals 'spin'...
My complaint is about every article I read presenting things as though conservatives are weary of or divided on conservative causes. I remember reading a Nytimes article saying that Evangelicals werent planning to vote this year, looks like they were wrong on that one, ;)
Conservatives are spinning their wheels. If you want to start to reform marriage you have to deal with the Model Divorce Code which is produced by a susidiary of the American Bar Association. This voluntary organization has produced a work of sample laws which reside in all legislatures and has been pushing to make all states compatible with the model code.
This model code includes sample laws for same sex marriages, standing for homosexual sex partners to have standing in for custody in divorce cases, and even seeks to make the focus of marriage recreational sex an children just an accessory for heterosexuals.
No.
forgot to add.
There must be a reform conservative model divorce code put forth to compete with the leftist ABA model code.
No fault will never be removed from the landscape HOWEVER there is nothing that prevents mitigations and marital facts being required to be considered when deciding property and custody divisions.
The is nothing preventing legislatures from taking the 'models' and dumping them in the trash along with all the rest of the elitists' social engineering endeavors...
LMAO -yes, conservatives are weary and divided -why believe stupid and objectively measurable things like trends in successively predominant strong and unified election results...
I agree with this. Human nature is such that if you want someone to give you something -helping them 'give' it will facilitate gift fruition...
Inserting a broad-brush condemnation of "deliberate" childless marriages in an otherwise valuable discussion on conservative thinking about protecting the institution of marriage is counter productive at best. I'm tempted to say more, but it would probably just be deliberate mockery of Mormons.
As for the homosexuals, they are trying to justify further destroying marriage because it's got problems. We need to work on fixing marriage, not destroy it with man-man-man-woman, man-goat, woman-horse, woman-woman marriages.
Yes it is -no doubt, the 'objective' reporter thought long and hard before inserting this 'moderate' nugget into the article...
LMAO
I follow those pretty closely as well as laws which make it not-quite-so-easy to get the divorce in Texas. It's been 16 years since I went through that kind of hell but since then I have worked within my church in a support system for divorce recovery. As such, this issue is very dear to my heart.
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