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1 posted on 11/20/2004 7:07:56 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Isn't it ironic that an anti-depressant killed someone?


2 posted on 11/20/2004 7:13:00 PM PST by Angry Republican (yvan eht nioj!)
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To: neverdem

prozac & paxil have many more horror stories on the internet than zoloft. I don't know why.


3 posted on 11/20/2004 7:22:05 PM PST by agitator (...And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark)
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To: neverdem

I all most hung myself trying to read that!


5 posted on 11/20/2004 7:33:05 PM PST by Boazo (From the mind of BOAZO)
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To: fourdeuce82d; El Gato; JudyB1938; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Robert A. Cook, PE; lepton; LadyDoc; jb6; ...

FReepmail me if you want on or off my health and science ping list.


6 posted on 11/20/2004 7:36:18 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

Bump


7 posted on 11/20/2004 7:36:22 PM PST by AnimalLover ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?))
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To: neverdem

I lost my son, Jeff, (17) in Feb of 1999 due to major depression (suicide). He was on Zoloft, and it made it worse, I am certain. God, I miss my son! I wish the FDA would get it's act together regarding anti-depressants.


12 posted on 11/20/2004 8:03:37 PM PST by Highwayman53 (Behind Enemy Lines...)
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To: neverdem

Does anyone know if Zoloft has a similar affect on adults?


18 posted on 11/20/2004 8:31:54 PM PST by ChocChipCookie (Really! I'm just a nice little stay-at-home mom!)
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To: neverdem

Did anybody give thought that these people might be killing themselves caused they ARE depressed?


23 posted on 11/20/2004 8:59:27 PM PST by TwoBear (Go Big Orange!)
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In 2002, 11 million antidepressant prescriptions were written for children and adolescents in the United States.

For anyone on antidepressants, ritalin, or other psycotropic drugs, or if considering taking them please visit www.breggin.com

24 posted on 11/20/2004 9:00:04 PM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: neverdem
This is criminal. The parents should have sued the doctor as well, who was getting tens of thousands of dollars yearly as a shill for these drugs.

As long as parents are "looking for a miracle" (as the parents in the article put it), and as long as doctors are making quick & easy profits, no one has any motivation to look into the *behavioral* and *alternative* treatments for depression available. Of course, as the article also says, many of the things which *cause* teenagers to be depressed are considered "unchangeable" (when in actuality they are NOT.)

26 posted on 11/20/2004 9:08:21 PM PST by valkyrieanne (card-carrying South Park Republican)
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Someone realy ought to redo "Bowling for Columbine" exposing the real reason those boys did what they did. Moore goes to such bizarre lengths to prove America is a violent culture and guns are evil and Charlton Heston is the devil. the truth is much simpler: The 2 Columbine boys were on a combanation of Prozac and Ritalin, which has been proven in a Cornell study to produce feelings of rage, persecution and paranoia, with violent tendencies at a rate 100x that of Prozac or Ritalin alone.


32 posted on 11/20/2004 9:26:05 PM PST by montag813
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To: neverdem

Was there some studies showing that the number of suicide has steadily decreased since SSRI as introduced?


34 posted on 11/20/2004 10:18:02 PM PST by Fishing-guy
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Both of them took a month off from work.

Little bit late there with that, aren't you, bow-tie daddy and soft-bowed-blouse mommy?

36 posted on 11/20/2004 11:05:49 PM PST by fire_eye (Socialism is the opiate of academia.)
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Sounds strange that the suicide is attributed to merely one week of medication. It is counterintuitive: one would think that much greater exposure would be needed for serious side effects. Seems like the case was worse than garden variety depression.


37 posted on 11/20/2004 11:32:00 PM PST by GSlob
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Currently using Wellbutrin, which doesn't have the side effects that Zoluft has, but has done nothing but make me amgry and irritable.


38 posted on 11/21/2004 2:36:25 AM PST by Clemenza (Gabba Gabba Hey!)
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To: neverdem

I will bet that the good Dr. was getting rewards (kickbacks) for the number of scripts per week!


39 posted on 11/21/2004 3:30:14 AM PST by stockpirate (Not we must take our mandate and do the deed.)
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To: neverdem

Not a word in the article about dopamine - and interactions w/ sleep, dopamine, and these drugs.

Should be.

Incredible read.


40 posted on 11/21/2004 5:32:16 AM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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To: Al B.

No one has accused anyone of being a Scientologist yet


44 posted on 11/22/2004 12:36:40 PM PST by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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BTTT


56 posted on 11/22/2004 8:20:44 PM PST by spodefly (I've posted nothing but BTTT over 1000 times!!!)
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To: neverdem
Still, he was clinging to his old friends more tightly than the Millers had hoped. On weekends, Mark and Cheryl often found themselves driving him to and from Lenexa. For a while, the Millers thought Matt was just going through a normal period of adjustment; a few months in, though, they noticed a change. ''At the beginning of the school year, Matt was getting calls from girls all the time,'' Cheryl, a petite woman in a stylish gray jacket and black pants, told me. ''But around Christmas we saw things weren't connecting for him as well. The kids weren't letting him in. He started getting quiet, withdrawn.'' The Millers' theory is that the other boys were jealous. ''We think some of the guys were blocking him out because all of the girls were calling him,'' Mark said. ''He probably crossed somebody with someone's girlfriend.''

His grades were falling. Always an A-B student -- he had excelled in math in particular -- he now had a D and an F. In February, Matt was caught forging his father's signature on several midterm progress reports. The Millers were called to the school for a conference. As the second semester continued, Matt's problems multiplied. One of his teachers reported that Matt was breaking pencils in class and failing to interact with his classmates. Several instances of ''unsatisfactory conduct'' were brought to the attention of the principal.

It seems that , with all the 'thoughts' and "probablys" in here, that no one was really talking with Matt, and that includes his parents.

The Millers, who knew by now that Matt was unhappy though they weren't sure why, thought this was a good idea. They were eager to help Matt while school was not in session; that way, he could start fresh in the fall. They initially wanted Matt to see a social worker recommended by the school, but their insurance did not cover that therapist. In the end, they chose a psychiatrist, telling themselves that this might be for the best in case medication was required. Matt didn't want to go. ''He said to me, 'Mom, I'm not crazy,''' Cheryl recalled. Mark added: ''I remember telling him, 'Matt, this is good.' We would all love to pay someone to help us work through our problems.''

Look, I'm not judging anyone here, but imho, this kid needed someone to spend some TIME with him, talking about 'stuff', not being palmed off on a bunch of 'professionals' who are NO substitute for someone who gives a damn and is not watching the clock.

They give the impression of typical climbers seeking a bromide solution for every problem, as long as it is not too expensive (insurance picked up the tab, or he would have gone to someone else!--their first choice) or inconvenient.

Puberty has got to be the roughest time for a kid, friendships change, even without a move, your hormones are screaming, you are confronted by situations you just don't know how to handle. You need PARENTS, a mentor, an uncle, grandfather, someone you can bounce stuff off of. Someone to just listen while you sort things out. Someone who gives a damn and isn't there for the paycheck.

I thank God that I had that. I pray for the kids who don't.

Yes, I think drugs are dangerous, especially when you already are going through all the crap I just mentioned. You don't need some junk in your system to add to the confusion, you just might need a friend to help to work things out.

62 posted on 11/23/2004 1:44:45 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (I'm from North Dakota and I'm all FOR Global Warming! Bring it ON!)
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