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Girl, 17, jailed for ringing phone
Newsday ^ | Rick Brand

Posted on 11/20/2004 10:02:03 AM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak

A ringing cell phone landed a 17-year-old Patchogue girl facing drug charges in a jail cell this week after an angry district court judge sentenced her to 21 days for contempt.

Mariela Acevedo of 21 Hammond St. incurred the wrath of District Court Judge Salvatore Alamia on Tuesday. As she awaited her hearing, an electronic device went off in Alamia's Central Islip courtroom and he warned everyone to shut off all cell phones and pagers or face contempt charges.

"If you don't know how to shut it off, go outside and introduce it to the heel of your shoe, he said according to a transcript.

When Acevedo's phone subsequently sounded, Alamia called the teenager forward and asked, "Did you think I was playing with you?"

(Excerpt) Read more at newsday.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: cellphones; courts; flamewar; judge; longisland
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To: orangelobster
the judge should be thrown in jail for being a jerk.

No. It's his courtroom. The participants in the room were warned. Too many "jerks" don't pay attention to rules, regulations and requests. These stupid phones ring in Church and at meetings. When I condust a meeting or a seminar, I announce that there will be NO CELL PHONE ACTIVITY in my meeting.

101 posted on 11/20/2004 11:27:41 AM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: LowOiL
Nope, "Contempt of court" was the charge after being fully warned.

As millions of illegals pour into our country, while our leaders and law enforcement stand shoulder to shoulder ignoring this titanic coast to coast lawlessness, while keeping a watchful eye on teenagers and citizens, making sure they fall after they trip.

102 posted on 11/20/2004 11:27:47 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Major_Risktaker
Here is good old DC a teenage car thief whom the police caught gets out of the court room without any jail time.

I have a LOT more problems with that judge than I do this one!

103 posted on 11/20/2004 11:27:49 AM PST by Ladysmith (November 2, 2004: Taking America BACK!!!)
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To: MinuteGal

I'm wondering how old 'orangelobster' is. Maybe 12?


104 posted on 11/20/2004 11:30:08 AM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Mister Baredog

How the heck can you expect people to "straighten up" when you treat them like trash? Start expecting personal responsibility out of people, instead of punishing them for the sake of "discipline" and maybe THEN you'll get people to straighten up.

Besides, if the intention was to get the girl to straighten out of her life (which I doubt was on the mind of that judge) - then giving her jailtime for the drug charge would have been more proper.


105 posted on 11/20/2004 11:30:21 AM PST by Utmost Certainty
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To: Utmost Certainty
It's sickening to see this slavish obeisance to authority figures that some people on this thread apparently have.

Come on, that's a little overblown. If you want to rant about judges this is not the case, try the Mass. Supremes, or the 9th Circus court.

This girl probably didn't want to miss a call from her crack dealer, that's why she didn't turn it off.

106 posted on 11/20/2004 11:30:57 AM PST by Mister Baredog ((DO IT NOW, if you haven't put up a flag on your FR homepage yet,PLEASE))
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To: cake_crumb

Well said.


107 posted on 11/20/2004 11:31:02 AM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Good for the judge. Some folks like this girl basically flip off those that state what the rules are.
Perhaps the little brat will learn a lesson.


108 posted on 11/20/2004 11:31:48 AM PST by Burlem
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To: Cobra64
The participants in the room were warned. Too many "jerks" don't pay attention to rules, regulations and requests.

How come the citizens are bound by rules and regulations, yet millions entering our country illegally get a routine pass?

Which laws are we able to ignore?

I like to start with my taxes. How much money is it going to cost the tax payers to jail this teenager for 21 days, for her cell phone ringing?

109 posted on 11/20/2004 11:33:14 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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There were a couple of readers on here that understand the word 'concurrent', for you others ...she got NO added time!!!!!!!!!!
110 posted on 11/20/2004 11:34:26 AM PST by Dust in the Wind (I've got peace like a river . . .)
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To: cake_crumb

Maybe he should have her hand cut off so she'll really be sorry. The judges in this country are not only out of control but elitist, disgraceful, power-mad idiots.


111 posted on 11/20/2004 11:34:47 AM PST by Cowgirl
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To: Joe Hadenuf
They release illegal aliens routinely, as our so-called leaders and law enforcement stand winking and nodding as our country is invaded by *millions* of illegal aliens, causing epic fraud and crime, but this arrogant tax paid judge sentences a citizens to 21 days in jail because they didn't turn off a cell phone?

This is a district court judge -- he doesn't have much say in matters of illegal immigration.

If it's irksome that illegal immigrants are running around and ignoring our laws, why doesn't it irk you that this 17-year-old ignores a judge's authority in a courtroom?

112 posted on 11/20/2004 11:34:51 AM PST by FoxInSocks
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To: Joe Hadenuf
I've seen my share of arrogent judges too. They suffer from a God Complex. Comes from having so much control over the lives of others.

That said, not all judges are arrogant b@stards suffering from a God Complex and are genuinely doing the best job they can and are NOT jerks.

We don't know all the details of what happened in teh court and projection is no way to draw a conclusion. Neither is the article, which is a TAD to politically charged to be trusted as being entirely truthful. Sounds like we're getting only carefully edited information that the author wants us to get, just so we'll draw a predefined conclusion.

That amount of manipulativeness strikes me as suspiciously exxagerated and makes me wonder what the heck is being HIDDEN.

113 posted on 11/20/2004 11:35:14 AM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Cobra64

"I'm wondering how old 'orangelobster' is. Maybe 12?"

yeah, I'm 12 in lobster years.


114 posted on 11/20/2004 11:36:19 AM PST by orangelobster
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To: FoxInSocks
I better question is how many have you met?, I have met a few, some were nice/fair but firm, and a few are pure AH**ES. same with cops.
115 posted on 11/20/2004 11:36:42 AM PST by markman46
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To: orangelobster
If I was convicted for everytime I forgot to turn off the cell ringer I would have a lengthy criminal record by now.

Then you need to get some therapy. Cell phones did not even exist 20 years ago, and the planet was, and is still rotating on its axis. BTW, go back to grammar school.

116 posted on 11/20/2004 11:37:10 AM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Yes "they" do release illegal aliens routinely and I'm totally against that. Is that what this judge has done? If so, then that would be more than a little hypocritical and I would agree with your outrage.

You know, one of the things that reinforces my law abiding behavior is the fear of what might happen to me in jail. You blame the judge, but it seems to me that she is the one in control of what happens to her. If I get burned when I stick my hand in the fire, it's not the fire's fault.

117 posted on 11/20/2004 11:37:17 AM PST by GBA
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To: orangelobster
"exactly. It's his personal peeve. He's supposed to be representing the people of his state, not himself and his personal whims. The guy is a loose cannon."

You speak as though you know Judge Alamia personally. Do you?

118 posted on 11/20/2004 11:38:28 AM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Mister Baredog

I wish what I said were overblown - but that doesn't appear to be the case. I see a bunch of people pandering with lines about, "She needs to learn to follow the rules!" or some other crack about how "deserved it." It isn't a rant about judges.

People seem to uphold abuses of power and abuses of the law when it serves their personal convictions - not when it serves the law itself.

And you saying that, "she didn't want to miss a call from her crack dealer..." just underlines my point.


119 posted on 11/20/2004 11:38:43 AM PST by Utmost Certainty
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To: FoxInSocks
If it's irksome that illegal immigrants are running around and ignoring our laws, why doesn't it irk you that this 17-year-old ignores a judge's authority in a courtroom?

You clearly don't get it.

Why are we bound by law, to obey rules and regulations when our law makers, law enforcement, and judges stand by watching this epic coast to coast lawlessness?

*Countless* times judges have released people that are in our country illegally, countless times law enforcement has failed to even arrest those invading our country.

Yet citizens are bound by the letter of the law?

Do you not see something very wrong with this picture?

120 posted on 11/20/2004 11:39:52 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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