An internal war at the CIA

The departure of Mr. Kappes is considered a blow to the Goss team's reforms, and is reportedly the direct result of a clash with Patrick Murphy, [Error in name..should be Murray] Goss's chief of staff....Kappes was especially respected among the overseas workforce, Scheuer says. "He has a reputation for being a very straight shooter. He's a former Marine who's done a lot of hard things overseas - he's the first qualified Director of Operations in more than a decade."

FOX NEWS:
Kappes, who has been at the CIA for 23 years and is considered a specialist on the Middle East, quit after a heated meeting with Goss' senior aides. He refused to reconsider and started moving his belongings out of his office over the weekend.

"A former senior intelligence official credited Kappes with being "principally responsible" for the operation that resulted in Libya's leader, Moammar al-Qaddafi, turning over his weapons of mass destruction to the United States.

Sulick headed the agency's counterintelligence division before becoming Kappes' deputy. Both rose to their positions this summer." http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,138634,00.html

Kappes came into his position last June or so and therefore would not be some left-winger.

"If they want to make this thing work, they've got to convince these senior officials that change is a good thing and convince them to help," says Art Hulnick, a former senior intelligence official

Just shut and move your damn cheese.

...Osama bin Laden making his ominous presence known, it is perhaps the worst of times for the Bush administration and its spies to be at odds.

Um, no. OBL's latest appearance probably reminded the sheeple that we are still at war with bad guys and pushed the Bush vote over the top.

"And the perception in the building [CIA headquarters] is that there are these kinds of failed agency officers returning to exact their revenge from people who've made it in the agency."

OK, but made it what? These folks were in upper management when the CIA failed us the most.

Kappes ran a Russian mole right in the heart of the Russian intelligence. In Moscow.

The guy gave us the names of 20 spies in the US including probably Hanssen.

Kappes speaks Russian and Farsi. Farsi is spoken in Iran, Afghanistan and parts of Central Asia. You know, where Al Qaeda is.

The mole Kappes ran was an expert on a language of Ethiopia who probably was tracking radical movements there.

He is not a leaker, and everything here is from published sources.

He is MUCH better than the people coming in.

IT is a TOTAL DISASTER that he is gone.

Although I voted for Bush, this has really soured me on him. He is risking everyone's lives.

The entire Porter Goss situation is incredibly negative.

First, leaking is part of Washington. Both sides of the aisle use this tactic, and the press does nothing to dissuade it. There is no way to stop it from happening. Nixon tried and look what happened to him.

If the administration did not listen to CIA advice about the post-invasion ground situation, then the CIA is simply playing a game of CYA. No one likes being the fall guy for anyone, regardless of a resignee's public statement to the otherwise.

I do hope that Goss focuses more on human intelligence and getting operatives active around the world. The US is far too dependent on electronic surveilance.

Goss, should not have taken his whole staff with him. Fresh ideas requires fresh people. His chief of staff needs to go.

The departure of Mr. Kappes is considered a blow to the Goss team's reforms

Funny how the liberal media acts as if our entire future hinges on one recently promoted middle manager at the CIA, but the President who has lead the War on Terrorism is dispensable.

I defer to your knowledge of this gentleman. What was his position with the Agency when the above mentioned was accomplished?

Your# 9.....correct!

By Faye Bowers | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor WASHINGTON ...............................nuff said!!

Kappes ran a Russian mole named Zaporozhsky. The Russian is mentioned in this story:

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/opinion/columnists/datelinedc/s_172823.html

An American hero worthy of help

Sunday, January 4, 2004
Two years ago, Robert Philip Hanssen, 59, a former very senior FBI official with 27 years of service, was sentenced to life in prison. Hanssen had been spying for the Russians and betrayed American intelligence sources and electronics secrets from as early as 1979.
He revealed the names of nine U.S. spies in the KGB and, it is said in the intelligence community, by 1987 more than 40 agents had been captured or killed. Ten years later American intelligence admitted they had, for a short time, been blind behind the Iron Curtain.
For the last four months of his career, the FBI's surveillance of Hanssen was a brilliant textbook operation that culminated with his arrest at dawn, on a Sunday, as he attempted to empty a "dead drop" of $50,000 in the woods of suburban Virginia. While this was the material for TV docudramas and spy books, we can now ask what alerted the bureau to its traitor.
Friends in the intelligence services say the information came as a result of material collected by a former Russian intelligence officer, Col. Alexander Zaporozhsky, then deputy director of the 1st Section Counter-Intelligence Department of the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB). They believe that Zaporozhsky had been recruited by the CIA in 1992. The Russians say the colonel exposed as many as 20 spies working for Russia in the United States before providing the material that exposed Hanssen.

........1992. The Russians say the colonel exposed as many as 20 spies working for Russia in the United States before providing the material that exposed Hanssen.

............................joy!

/sarcasm

Oh how I remember all of Hillry's generals leaking during the early days of Rummy's bottom up review and all through the war.

Rummy was despised upon Capital Hill because of all the toes he was stepping upon.

Seems these that stayed through the Clintons reign think they are more equal than the rest.

The CIA went political long ago and they need a little reminder who pays them, what their job is and they are no longer in charge.

You make a heck of point.

McLaughlin was "beloved," and Kappes was especially respected among the overseas workforce, Scheuer says. "He has a reputation for being a very straight shooter. He's a former Marine who's done a lot of hard things overseas - he's the first qualified Director of Operations in more than a decade."

Beloved??!!

Now General MacArthur was beloved and respected. Stil -- Truman was right to remove him, and wrong if he hadn't have done so.

Placed in command of an American-led coalition of United Nations forces, MacArthur reversed the dire military situation in the early months of the war with a brillian amphibious assault behind North Korean lines at the Port of Inchon. But within weeks of this great triumph he and Washington miscalculated badly. MacArthur's approach to the Chinese border triggered the entry of Mao's Communist Chinese, and as 1951 dawned, they faced what he called "an entirely new war." Although the able leadership of General Matthew B. Ridgway stabilized the military situation near the prewar boundary at the 38th parallel, MacArthur's months of public and private bickering with the Truman administration soon came to a head. On April 11, 1951, the President relieved General MacArthur, triggering a firestorm of protest over our strategy not only in Korea, but in the Cold War as a whole. As the last great general of World War II to come home, MacArthur received a hero's welcome. Despite his dramatic televised address to a joint session of Congress, however, the issue died quickly, and with it any hopes MacArthur had of reaching the White House in 1952.
(Link: PBS -- The American Experience, "MacArthur"

Who is in command? The writer of civil service exams? The Union Rep of the Allied Spooks and Dark Morass of Secrets Clerks Local 8613?

MacArthur conceived of the Korean war as a holy war; he kept talking about "unleashing Chiang Kai-shek," then holed up in his island fortress on Formosa, and launching atomic strikes, all of which made Truman, the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the other UN countries involved very nervous. For Harry Truman and the Joint Chiefs, Korea was an exercise in containment, but that made it a very frustrating war for many Americans. It meant that in this war the United States was not aiming for total victory, but for more limited, and more ambiguous, results.
There is a tradition in American government that the military is subordinate to the civilian leaders. Generals do not make statements about policy without first clearing them with their superiors. But MacArthur, used to ruling in Japan, ignored the chain of command, and began writing letters about what the United States should do in Korea. He sent a letter to the Veterans of Foreign Wars saying that Formosa would be a fine place to launch an aggressive campaign against China. After the Chinese entered the war -- something MacArthur had assured Truman would never happen -- MacArthur wrote to Speaker of the House Joe Martin saying the United States could only win by an all-out war, and this meant bombing the Manchurian bases. So Harry Truman fired him, and evoked a firestorm of criticism from conservatives who believed Truman to be soft on communism. But there is no question that Truman was absolutely correct. Whether his overall policy was right or wrong, the American Constitution commits control of foreign policy to the president and not to the military. As Truman explained, avoidance of World War III while containing aggression was a difficult line to walk, but that was the policy the United States had decided upon. No soldier, not even a five-star general, could unilaterally challenge that policy without disturbing an essential element of democratic government.
(link: US State Department's InfoUSA, Facts About The USA, "RECALL OF GENERAL DOUGLAS MACARTHUR (1951)"

Even in Foggy Bottom they understand. Sometimes.

Note the balancing themes -- MacArthur's Holy War at Odds with Truman's late-stage chess game of constant checking in 1951. In 2004 -- the CIA and State's incessant stall game versus Bush's Holy War.

The universe of politcal space and time is ever at balance.

The Russians wrote about Kappes. The Russians say he was the CIA Resident in Moscow from 1996-99. They would probably know.

I read it in Russian on the internet and saved it in Russian, but the link is dead.

The Russian text doesn't show if I post it here.

According to the Russians (the KGB, so keep that in mind) Kappes ran this Russian colonel named Alexander Zaporozhsky after he was recruited by another fellow. Zaporozhsky was an expert at an Ethiopian language called Akhmarskii--one of the most difficult languages in the world.The colonel had been posted there.

According to the Russians' cautionary tale, "Our Man in Buenos Aires," Zaporozhsky was recruited in Buenos Aires while drinking whisky sodas, the drink of subversive Western spies. I guess if he'd stuck to vodka...

The Russian Intelligence at that time was on its fanny and so they used this incident to prove they were on their toes.

The Russians lured Zaporozhsky back to Russia from America and caught him when the plane landed. They had his old friends call up and tell him that they didn't even have money for cigarettes while he had become a business success in the west after retiring. They asked him to come home and give a seminar on starting up in businesss.

Amazingly, the guy went. Of course, this is the official version right out of the mouth of the Russian Intelligence.

It did make a good story tho'. And the poor guy got 18 years in prison--more than the prosecutor asked for.

The story ran on the Day of Chekists, or Secret Police Day. The Chekists are what the Russian intelligence call themselves because the first spy agency under Lenin was the CHEKA.

The article ran in Kommsomolskaya Pravda on December 20, 2003 and was posted on the official site of the Russian Intelligence, the FSB. http://www.fsb.ru/smi/smi.html

I don't see it there now. I will look for some other stuff and be back.

Well, I can quote you conservative columnists saying the same thing.

DEVELOPING....

Not one person has said that Kappes leaked. He refused to fire his subordinant just because of a disagreement according to the papers.

No comprendo.